* How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? @ 2020-12-02 16:41 T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 16:54 ` Joey McCollum 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 16:41 UTC (permalink / raw) To: context mailing list [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 103 bytes --] Searches didn't reveal the answer. -- T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 423 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 16:41 How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 16:54 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 17:14 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 18:34 ` Hans Hagen 0 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 16:54 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1123 bytes --] If you're using Octavio Pardo's version of EB Garamond ( https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12), then these ligatures are covered (along with the Th ligature) by the "dlig" (discretionary ligatures) feature, so you'll need to disable that. Unfortunately, this will also disable the Th ligature. This is a known, open issue for the font: https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20. I hope this helps. On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:41 AM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> wrote: > Searches didn't reveal the answer. > > -- > T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2317 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 16:54 ` Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 17:14 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 17:29 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 17:35 ` Hans Hagen 2020-12-02 18:34 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 17:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1907 bytes --] It does help. Thanks. But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:55 AM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote: > If you're using Octavio Pardo's version of EB Garamond ( > https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12), then these ligatures are > covered (along with the Th ligature) by the "dlig" (discretionary > ligatures) feature, so you'll need to disable that. Unfortunately, this > will also disable the Th ligature. This is a known, open issue for the > font: https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20. > > I hope this helps. > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:41 AM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Searches didn't reveal the answer. >> >> -- >> T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4170 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 17:14 ` T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 17:29 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 17:32 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 17:35 ` Hans Hagen 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 17:29 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2671 bytes --] I think it would look something like \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features={default,dlig=no}] On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:14 PM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> wrote: > It does help. Thanks. > > But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:55 AM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> If you're using Octavio Pardo's version of EB Garamond ( >> https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12), then these ligatures are >> covered (along with the Th ligature) by the "dlig" (discretionary >> ligatures) feature, so you'll need to disable that. Unfortunately, this >> will also disable the Th ligature. This is a known, open issue for the >> font: https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20. >> >> I hope this helps. >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:41 AM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Searches didn't reveal the answer. >>> >>> -- >>> T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry >>> to the Wiki! >>> >>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > > -- > T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5686 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 17:29 ` Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 17:32 ` Joey McCollum 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 17:32 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2950 bytes --] The wiki page on featuresets (https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Featuresets) offers a more comprehensive treatment. On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:29 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote: > I think it would look something like > > \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features={default,dlig=no}] > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:14 PM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> wrote: > >> It does help. Thanks. >> >> But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:55 AM Joey McCollum < >> jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> If you're using Octavio Pardo's version of EB Garamond ( >>> https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12), then these ligatures are >>> covered (along with the Th ligature) by the "dlig" (discretionary >>> ligatures) feature, so you'll need to disable that. Unfortunately, this >>> will also disable the Th ligature. This is a known, open issue for the >>> font: https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20. >>> >>> I hope this helps. >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 11:41 AM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Searches didn't reveal the answer. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry >>>> to the Wiki! >>>> >>>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>>> >>>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>>> >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry >>> to the Wiki! >>> >>> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >>> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >>> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >>> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >>> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >>> >>> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >>> >> >> >> -- >> T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 6245 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 17:14 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 17:29 ` Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 17:35 ` Hans Hagen 2020-12-02 17:56 ` T. Kurt Bond 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-12-02 17:35 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, T. Kurt Bond On 12/2/2020 6:14 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > It does help. Thanks. > > But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? You forget to add a MWE ... Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 17:35 ` Hans Hagen @ 2020-12-02 17:56 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum ` (2 more replies) 0 siblings, 3 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 17:56 UTC (permalink / raw) To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 935 bytes --] Ah, ok. Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off? \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default,dlig=no}] \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] \starttext ct st \stoptext On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:35 PM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote: > On 12/2/2020 6:14 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > It does help. Thanks. > > > > But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? > You forget to add a MWE ... > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > -- T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 1815 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 17:56 ` T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 18:10 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 18:08 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2020-12-02 18:10 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1769 bytes --] You'll need to use the alias for the font family, as follows: \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, hlig=no}] \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] \starttext ct st \stoptext On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:56 PM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> wrote: > Ah, ok. > > Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and > st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off? > > \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default,dlig=no}] > \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] > \starttext > ct st > \stoptext > > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:35 PM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote: > >> On 12/2/2020 6:14 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote: >> > It does help. Thanks. >> > >> > But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? >> You forget to add a MWE ... >> >> Hans >> >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >> > > > -- > T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3607 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 18:10 ` T. Kurt Bond 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2092 bytes --] Sorry, there was a typo. Use this: \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, dlig=no}] \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] \starttext ct st \stoptext On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:05 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote: > You'll need to use the alias for the font family, as follows: > > \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, hlig=no}] > > \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] > > \starttext > > ct st > > \stoptext > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:56 PM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ah, ok. >> >> Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and >> st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off? >> >> \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default,dlig=no}] >> \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] >> \starttext >> ct st >> \stoptext >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:35 PM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote: >> >>> On 12/2/2020 6:14 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote: >>> > It does help. Thanks. >>> > >>> > But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? >>> You forget to add a MWE ... >>> >>> Hans >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> -- >> T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4406 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 18:10 ` T. Kurt Bond 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2587 bytes --] That did the trick, thanks! Should I put that on the wiki? Where should it go? On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:07 PM Joey McCollum <jmccollum20140511@gmail.com> wrote: > You'll need to use the alias for the font family, as follows: > > \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, hlig=no}] > > \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] > > \starttext > > ct st > > \stoptext > > On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:56 PM T. Kurt Bond <tkurtbond@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Ah, ok. >> >> Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and >> st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off? >> >> \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default,dlig=no}] >> \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] >> \starttext >> ct st >> \stoptext >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 12:35 PM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote: >> >>> On 12/2/2020 6:14 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote: >>> > It does help. Thanks. >>> > >>> > But how do I turn that font feature off in ConTeXt? >>> You forget to add a MWE ... >>> >>> Hans >>> >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE >>> Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands >>> tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl >>> ----------------------------------------------------------------- >>> >> >> >> -- >> T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to >> the Wiki! >> >> maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / >> http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context >> webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net >> archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ >> wiki : http://contextgarden.net >> >> ___________________________________________________________________________________ >> > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5435 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 17:56 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum @ 2020-12-02 18:08 ` Wolfgang Schuster 2020-12-02 18:10 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-12-02 18:08 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users T. Kurt Bond schrieb am 02.12.2020 um 18:56: > Ah, ok. > > Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and > st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off? > > \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default,dlig=no}] > \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] > \starttext > ct st > \stoptext \definefontfamily [english] [rm] [EB Garamond] \definefontfamily [english] [mm] [Stix Two Math] \setupbodyfont[english] \starttext fi fl ffi ffl ct st \stoptext Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 17:56 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 18:05 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 18:08 ` Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-12-02 18:10 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2020-12-02 18:59 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 19:01 ` T. Kurt Bond 2 siblings, 2 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Pablo Rodriguez @ 2020-12-02 18:10 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 12/2/20 6:56 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > Ah, ok. > > Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and > st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off? Hi Kurt, here you have the sample that should work: %~ \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [ebgaramond] %~ [features={default,dlig=no}] \definefontfeature[english][dlig=no] \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features={default,english}] \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] \starttext ct st \stoptext BTW, on my system the default doesn’t get discretionary ligatures. Your sample didn’t work because the identifier for \definefontfamily (english) was different from the one used in \setupbodyfont. (If they don’t match, it cannot work.) Another cleaner approach is to define font features to invoke them in \definefontfamily. This method seems cleaner to me. I hope it helps, Pablo -- http://www.ousia.tk ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 18:10 ` Pablo Rodriguez @ 2020-12-02 18:59 ` T. Kurt Bond 2020-12-02 19:16 ` Rik Kabel 2020-12-02 19:01 ` T. Kurt Bond 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 18:59 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 2483 bytes --] Interesting. Here is a an example that sort of works, Variant 1: \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, dlig=no}] \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] \starttext Variant 1: Does this look like EBGaramond? fi fl ffi ffl ct st \stoptext However, it turns of *all* the ligatures. Here is an example that works as expected, Variant 2: \definefontfeature[english][dlig=no] \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features={default,english}] \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] \starttext Variant 2: Does this look like EBGaramond? fi fl ffi ffl ct st \stoptext It turns off just the ct and st ligatures. I've attached the generated PDF files for both variants. On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:23 PM Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote: > On 12/2/20 6:56 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > Ah, ok. > > > > Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and > > st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off? > > Hi Kurt, > > here you have the sample that should work: > > %~ \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [ebgaramond] > > %~ [features={default,dlig=no}] > > \definefontfeature[english][dlig=no] > > \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond] > > [features={default,english}] > > \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] > > \starttext > > ct st > > \stoptext > > BTW, on my system the default doesn’t get discretionary ligatures. > > Your sample didn’t work because the identifier for \definefontfamily > (english) was different from the one used in \setupbodyfont. (If they > don’t match, it cannot work.) > > Another cleaner approach is to define font features to invoke them in > \definefontfamily. This method seems cleaner to me. > > I hope it helps, > > Pablo > -- > http://www.ousia.tk > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 5030 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: ebgaramond-lig.pdf --] [-- Type: application/pdf, Size: 7452 bytes --] [-- Attachment #3: ebgaramond-lig-variant-2.pdf --] [-- Type: application/pdf, Size: 8088 bytes --] [-- Attachment #4: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 18:59 ` T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 19:16 ` Rik Kabel 2020-12-02 19:30 ` T. Kurt Bond 0 siblings, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2020-12-02 19:16 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1005 bytes --] On 12/2/2020 13:59, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > Interesting. > > Here is a an example that sort of works, Variant 1: > > \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, > dlig=no}] > \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] > \starttext > > Variant 1: > Does this look like EBGaramond? > > fi fl ffi ffl ct st > \stoptext > > > However, it turns of *all* the ligatures. > > Here is an example that works as expected, Variant 2: > > \definefontfeature[english][dlig=no] > \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond] > [features={default,english}] > \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] > > \starttext > > Variant 2: > Does this look like EBGaramond? > > fi fl ffi ffl ct st > \stoptext > > > It turns off just the ct and st ligatures. > > I've attached the generated PDF files for both variants. > > No, it turns off other ligatures as well, so is not a generally workable solution. (Try *fj* and *ſi*, for two examples.) -- Rik [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 3313 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 19:16 ` Rik Kabel @ 2020-12-02 19:30 ` T. Kurt Bond 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 19:30 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1735 bytes --] Oh, so it does. That doesn't look good. On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 2:21 PM Rik Kabel <ConTeXt@rik.users.panix.com> wrote: > > On 12/2/2020 13:59, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > Interesting. > > Here is a an example that sort of works, Variant 1: > > \definefontfamily[english] [rm] [ebgaramond] [features={default, dlig=no}] > \setupbodyfont[english,10pt] > \starttext > > Variant 1: > Does this look like EBGaramond? > > fi fl ffi ffl ct st > \stoptext > > > However, it turns of *all* the ligatures. > > Here is an example that works as expected, Variant 2: > > \definefontfeature[english][dlig=no] > \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond] > [features={default,english}] > \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] > > \starttext > > Variant 2: > Does this look like EBGaramond? > > fi fl ffi ffl ct st > \stoptext > > > It turns off just the ct and st ligatures. > > I've attached the generated PDF files for both variants. > > > No, it turns off other ligatures as well, so is not a generally workable > solution. (Try *fj* and *ſi*, for two examples.) > > -- > Rik > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 4886 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 18:10 ` Pablo Rodriguez 2020-12-02 18:59 ` T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 19:01 ` T. Kurt Bond 1 sibling, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 19:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users [-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 1792 bytes --] I agree, this solution does seem cleaner to me. Thanks! On Wed, Dec 2, 2020 at 1:23 PM Pablo Rodriguez <oinos@gmx.es> wrote: > On 12/2/20 6:56 PM, T. Kurt Bond wrote: > > Ah, ok. > > > > Here is a minimal NONWORKING example: the resulting PDF shows the ct and > > st ligatures. What commands should I use to turn them off? > > Hi Kurt, > > here you have the sample that should work: > > %~ \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [ebgaramond] > > %~ [features={default,dlig=no}] > > \definefontfeature[english][dlig=no] > > \definefontfamily[ebgaramond] [rm] [EB Garamond] > > [features={default,english}] > > \setupbodyfont[ebgaramond,10pt] > > \starttext > > ct st > > \stoptext > > BTW, on my system the default doesn’t get discretionary ligatures. > > Your sample didn’t work because the identifier for \definefontfamily > (english) was different from the one used in \setupbodyfont. (If they > don’t match, it cannot work.) > > Another cleaner approach is to define font features to invoke them in > \definefontfamily. This method seems cleaner to me. > > I hope it helps, > > Pablo > -- > http://www.ousia.tk > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > -- T. Kurt Bond, tkurtbond@gmail.com, https://tkurtbond.github.io [-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 2980 bytes --] [-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 493 bytes --] ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 16:54 ` Joey McCollum 2020-12-02 17:14 ` T. Kurt Bond @ 2020-12-02 18:34 ` Hans Hagen 2020-12-02 19:22 ` Rik Kabel 1 sibling, 1 reply; 18+ messages in thread From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-12-02 18:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users, Joey McCollum On 12/2/2020 5:54 PM, Joey McCollum wrote: > If you're using Octavio Pardo's version of EB Garamond > (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12 > <https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12>), then these ligatures > are covered (along with the Th ligature) by the "dlig" (discretionary > ligatures) feature, so you'll need to disable that. Unfortunately, this > will also disable the Th ligature. This is a known, open issue for the > font: https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20 > <https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20>. One of these examples where opensource fails ... https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12 https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond A while ago I replaced AB on my machine in oirdert to test some issue so now I have to replace it again? Which one is the real one? Which one is the original? Which one are we supposed to support / configure? \definefontfeature[whatever][default][rlig=yes] % \definefontfeature[whatever][default][rlig=yes,dlig=yes] % those st and ct ligs \definefontfamily [english] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features=whatever] \definefontfamily [english] [mm] [Stix Two Math] \setupbodyfont[english] \starttext fi fl ffi ffl ct st \stoptext Using the ones pointed from google fonts. Hans ----------------------------------------------------------------- Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl ----------------------------------------------------------------- ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
* Re: How do I get rid of the ct and st ligatures in EBGaramond? 2020-12-02 18:34 ` Hans Hagen @ 2020-12-02 19:22 ` Rik Kabel 0 siblings, 0 replies; 18+ messages in thread From: Rik Kabel @ 2020-12-02 19:22 UTC (permalink / raw) To: ntg-context On 12/2/2020 13:34, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 12/2/2020 5:54 PM, Joey McCollum wrote: >> If you're using Octavio Pardo's version of EB Garamond >> (https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12 >> <https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12>), then these ligatures >> are covered (along with the Th ligature) by the "dlig" (discretionary >> ligatures) feature, so you'll need to disable that. Unfortunately, >> this will also disable the Th ligature. This is a known, open issue >> for the font: https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20 >> <https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12/issues/20>. > One of these examples where opensource fails ... > > https://github.com/octaviopardo/EBGaramond12 > https://github.com/georgd/EB-Garamond > > A while ago I replaced AB on my machine in oirdert to test some issue > so now I have to replace it again? Which one is the real one? Which > one is the original? Which one are we supposed to support / configure? > > \definefontfeature[whatever][default][rlig=yes] > % \definefontfeature[whatever][default][rlig=yes,dlig=yes] % those st > and ct ligs > > \definefontfamily [english] [rm] [EB Garamond] [features=whatever] > \definefontfamily [english] [mm] [Stix Two Math] > > \setupbodyfont[english] > > \starttext > fi fl ffi ffl ct st > \stoptext > > Using the ones pointed from google fonts. > > Hans > Hello all, I am the one who posted issue #20 for the font back in January 2018. The report simply states that there is no way to get dlig without also getting hlig, and includes an easily reproducible demonstration (using LibreOffice on the assumption that it is more accessible for testing). Since then, there has been a PR submitted. Crickets. No action. As to which version of the font should be used, Georg Duffner transferred stewardship of the font to Octavio Pardo in 2017 or so. Pardo added support for faces beyond roman and italic (bold, semibold, extrabold). Some work was done a couple of years ago to support variable fonts, but nothing that can be used has yet come out of that effort. To a casual observer, the development and maintenance appears to be abandoned. I am sure that many would be happy to see work on this font resume, but projects like this are difficult to take over and support is thin. So, if you can find that satisfies your requirements as it is, use it. The Duffner versions (pre-Pardo) do not have this particular issue, and if you do not need emboldened faces or other updates Pardo may have implemented, that should work. Or look elsewhere. Although the range and licensing of EB Garamond was certainly attractive, there are plenty of Garamonds in the world. -- Rik ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 18+ messages in thread
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