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* Customizing \cite alternatives
@ 2020-02-17 17:26 Philipp A.
  2020-02-19 15:30 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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Hi List,

I want the comma gone from “et al.” citations, and modify the cite
alternatives:

   - [authoryear]: (Surname, et al., 2018) → (Surname et al., 2018)
   - [authoryears]: Surname, et al. (2018) → Surname et al. (2018)

Also I’d like to configure how many names are the maximum before all except
the first are replaced by “et al.”
i.e. \setupcitething[maxauthors=3]: (One, Two, Three, & Four, 2018) → (One
et al., 2018)

How can I do this? I didn’t find anything in the publications manual:
http://pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/mkiv-publications.pdf

Best, Philipp

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* Re: Customizing \cite alternatives
  2020-02-17 17:26 Customizing \cite alternatives Philipp A.
@ 2020-02-19 15:30 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  2020-02-20 13:16   ` Philipp A.
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2020-02-19 15:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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It is difficult to answer your question because we don't know which 
specifications you use for your citations. You will have to provide a 
minimal example that allows us to see what you're doing.

Thomas

On 2/17/20 6:26 PM, Philipp A. wrote:
> Hi List,
> 
> I want the comma gone from “et al.” citations, and modify the cite 
> alternatives:
> 
>   * [authoryear]: (Surname, et al., 2018) → (Surname et al., 2018)
>   * [authoryears]: Surname, et al. (2018) → Surname et al. (2018)
> 
> Also I’d like to configure how many names are the maximum before all 
> except the first are replaced by “et al.”
> i.e. \setupcitething[maxauthors=3]: (One, Two, Three, & Four, 2018) → 
> (One et al., 2018)
> 
> How can I do this? I didn’t find anything in the publications manual: 
> http://pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/mkiv-publications.pdf
> 
> Best, Philipp
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* Re: Customizing \cite alternatives
  2020-02-19 15:30 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2020-02-20 13:16   ` Philipp A.
  2020-02-20 15:07     ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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Makes sense, seems like no default is defined anymore, so it won’t render
without using a style.
I use apa, and the attached screenshot shows my problem.

\startbuffer[testbib]
@Article{testone,
  author={Testperson, A. B.},
  title={Thing with one author},
  year={2001},
}
@Article{testtwo,
  author={Testperson, A. B. and Friendperson, C.},
  title={Thing with two authors},
  year={2002},
}
@Article{testmany,
  author={Ah and Bee and Cee and Dee and Ee and Eff and Gee},
  title={Thing with two authors},
  year={2002},
}
\stopbuffer

\definebtxdataset[main]
\usebtxdataset[main][testbib.buffer]
\setupbtx[dataset=main] % make cite use this
\setupbtx[default:cite][alternative=authoryear] % cite style
\usebtxdefinitions[apa] % load and activate list rendering
\definebtxrendering[main][apa][dataset=main, pagestate=start]

\starttext
\cite[authoryear][testone] \cite[authoryear][testtwo]
\cite[authoryear][testmany]

\cite[authoryears][testone] \cite[authoryears][testtwo]
\cite[authoryears][testmany]

\subject{bib}

\placebtxrendering[main][method=global]
\stoptext

Am Mi., 19. Feb. 2020 um 16:35 Uhr schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz <
thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>:

> It is difficult to answer your question because we don't know which
> specifications you use for your citations. You will have to provide a
> minimal example that allows us to see what you're doing.
>
> Thomas
>
> On 2/17/20 6:26 PM, Philipp A. wrote:
> > Hi List,
> >
> > I want the comma gone from “et al.” citations, and modify the cite
> > alternatives:
> >
> >   * [authoryear]: (Surname, et al., 2018) → (Surname et al., 2018)
> >   * [authoryears]: Surname, et al. (2018) → Surname et al. (2018)
> >
> > Also I’d like to configure how many names are the maximum before all
> > except the first are replaced by “et al.”
> > i.e. \setupcitething[maxauthors=3]: (One, Two, Three, & Four, 2018) →
> > (One et al., 2018)
> >
> > How can I do this? I didn’t find anything in the publications manual:
> > http://pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/mkiv-publications.pdf
> >
> > Best, Philipp
>
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* Re: Customizing \cite alternatives
  2020-02-20 13:16   ` Philipp A.
@ 2020-02-20 15:07     ` Thomas A. Schmitz
  2020-02-22 16:02       ` Philipp A.
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2020-02-20 15:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 20.02.20 14:16, Philipp A. wrote:
> Makes sense, seems like no default is defined anymore, so it won’t 
> render without using a style.
> I use apa, and the attached screenshot shows my problem.

If you use APA, you have to set up the APA cite options. The manual is a 
bit on the short side here, but all the options are mentioned. If you 
want to change the way et al. is displayed (for APA, the default is 
\btxcomma\btxlabeltext{others}), you can do this:

\setupbtx [apa:cite] [otherstext={ et al.}]

The number of authors displayed is defined by the key etaldisplay, so 
you would do this:

\setupbtx [apa:cite] [etaldisplay=4]

Thomas
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* Re: Customizing \cite alternatives
  2020-02-20 15:07     ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2020-02-22 16:02       ` Philipp A.
  2020-02-24 14:41         ` Chapters, sections, usw Jean-Pierre Delange
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Thank you for the pointer to the options!

- “otherstext” works, yay! (when inserted after “\usebtxdefinitions[apa]”)
- “etallimit” (not “etaldisplay”) is the option for the max number of
authors before they’re replaced by “et al”. (“etaldisplay” controls how
many authors go before “et al” if the list is truncated)

I think I’ll add a more complete example to the wiki, all of this is pretty
complex due to being sensitive to order and overrides and so on.

Best, Philipp

Am Do., 20. Feb. 2020 um 16:11 Uhr schrieb Thomas A. Schmitz <
thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de>:

> On 20.02.20 14:16, Philipp A. wrote:
> > Makes sense, seems like no default is defined anymore, so it won’t
> > render without using a style.
> > I use apa, and the attached screenshot shows my problem.
>
> If you use APA, you have to set up the APA cite options. The manual is a
> bit on the short side here, but all the options are mentioned. If you
> want to change the way et al. is displayed (for APA, the default is
> \btxcomma\btxlabeltext{others}), you can do this:
>
> \setupbtx [apa:cite] [otherstext={ et al.}]
>
> The number of authors displayed is defined by the key etaldisplay, so
> you would do this:
>
> \setupbtx [apa:cite] [etaldisplay=4]
>
> Thomas
>
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>

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* Chapters, sections, usw
  2020-02-22 16:02       ` Philipp A.
@ 2020-02-24 14:41         ` Jean-Pierre Delange
  2020-02-24 16:07           ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Jean-Pierre Delange @ 2020-02-24 14:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello List,

Coming back after monthes to a complex work in progress with ConTeXt, I 
am afraid to need help with this apparently easy-to-manage question of 
printed titles.

My document has a TOC, where one can read chapters, sections, and 
subsections of the document. But, I can't achieve to print chapter titles.

Thank you in advance for your help.

JP

See below the MWE :

% \showframe %\showgrid

\setuplanguage[fr][patterns={fr,agr}]

\mainlanguage[fr]

\setuppagenumbering[alternative=doublesided, location={header, inmargin}]

\setupbodyfontenvironment[default][em=italic]

\definefontfamily [mainface] [serif] [GaramondNo8][sc=NewG8 Regular SC]

\setupbodyfont[mainface]

\setupindenting[1.5em]

\setupindenting[medium,yes]

\setupwhitespace[medium]

\setupinterlinespace[line=3.2ex]

% Définition des têtes et pieds de page

\setuphead[title][chapter]

\setupheader[style={\sc}]

\setupfooter[style={\itxx}]

\setupheadertexts[ Cours de Philosophie][][][{\getmarking[section]}]

\setupfootertexts[][][][© J.-P. Delange, 2018-2020 — Texte composé avec 
ConTeXt - Reproduction soumise à autorisation.]

\setupsymbolset[text]

\starttext

\startchapter[title ={Introduction}]

\startsection[title={Préambule}]

\startsubsection[title={À qui s'adresse ce cours ?}]

Ce {\em cours} de philosophie s'adresse d'abord aux élèves de classe de 
terminale des Lycées, motivés par le massif intimidant d'interrogations 
et de réflexions que la tradition européenne désigne par {\em 
philosophie} ; il s'adresse autant aux étudiants spécialisés qu'aux 
personnes de tout âge, qui souhaitent appréhender ces questionnements et 
tirer au clair autant que possible ce qui est le propre de l'{\em 
interrogation} philosophique. L'exercice de la réflexion {\em 
philosophique} est en effet assez singulier, car si la plupart des gens 
cherchent des réponses dans l'urgence à leurs questions, ils ne se 
prêtent pas volontiers à l'examen approfondi des raisons qui conduisent 
à leur questionnement\footnote{L'analyse de la spécificité de 
l'interrogation philosophique sera développée plus bas.}. Aussi les {\em 
questionnements} et les {\em interrogations} dont la nature 
philosophique n'apparaît pas toujours, tendent à être mises de côté pour 
les raisons indiquées : l'urgence, mais aussi une certaine routine 
intellectuelle font que, plutôt que de nous engager sur un chemin 
difficile et raboteux, nous cherchons plutôt à éprouver la satisfaction 
rapide qu'apportent les réponses simples et définitives\footnote{Cf. 
Platon, {\em République}, 365c : \quote{ Je dois donc tracer à l'entour 
de moi, pour servir de façade et de décor, une image de vertu, et 
traîner derrière moi le renard subtil et astucieux du très sage 
Archiloque ?}.}.

De même que l'on écrit souvent le livre qu'on aimerait lire, les 
développements qui forment cet ouvrage ont pour titre “Cours de 
philosophie” et non pas “{\em Manuel} de philosophie”, car il s'agit ici 
plutôt d'{\em initier} le lecteur à quelques problèmes philosophiques 
centraux au moyen d'un discours aussi {\em unifié} et {\em articulé} que 
possible, à partir de quelques questions basiques. Un manuel pourrait 
développer les mêmes matières, en mettant en avant les textes des 
Auteurs à la mode et en exposant le programme selon les notions 
regroupées par tête de chapitre. Les éditeurs de manuels scolaires 
découpent ainsi les programmes officiels de l'enseignement de 
philosophie pour les classes de Terminale selon une forme et une 
régularité quasi métronomiques, de telle sorte qu'on est en droit de se 
demander, au vu de la profusion de ces manuels, en quoi ils diffèrent 
les uns des autres. Cette différence se tient bien souvent dans la 
ventilation des chapitres et au choix arbitraire des textes, dont il 
faut se demander en quoi ils sont fondamentaux. Cependant, si un 
\quote{cours de philosophie} est développé par un professeur de 
philosophie, celui-ci ne saurait se borner — s'il est attentif à sa 
mission et à ses prérogatives — à diffuser une sorte de {\em compendium} 
dans lequel il exposerait devant les élèves ces têtes de chapitres dans 
l'ordre exposé par les programmes officiels de philosophie de 
l'Éducation Nationale.

\stopsubsection

\stopsection

\stopchapter

\stoptext


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* Re: Chapters, sections, usw
  2020-02-24 14:41         ` Chapters, sections, usw Jean-Pierre Delange
@ 2020-02-24 16:07           ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2020-02-24 17:28             ` Jean-Pierre Delange
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2020-02-24 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:41:45 +0100
Jean-Pierre Delange <adeimantos@free.fr> wrote:

> Hello List,
> 
> Coming back after monthes to a complex work in progress with ConTeXt, I 
> am afraid to need help with this apparently easy-to-manage question of 
> printed titles.
> 
> My document has a TOC, where one can read chapters, sections, and 
> subsections of the document. But, I can't achieve to print chapter titles.

You have a space at the end of the title-key which becomes part of the key.

Instead of passing the text to the key "title" you pass it to "title ",
remove the space and the text will appear in the PDF.

\startchapter[title ={Introduction}]
                  ^^^

Wolfgang
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* Re: Chapters, sections, usw
  2020-02-24 16:07           ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2020-02-24 17:28             ` Jean-Pierre Delange
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From: Jean-Pierre Delange @ 2020-02-24 17:28 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

Thank you very much, Wolfgang ! I use to usually scrutinize this kind of 
coding error, but ...

Le 24/02/2020 à 17:07, Wolfgang Schuster a écrit :
> On Mon, 24 Feb 2020 15:41:45 +0100
> Jean-Pierre Delange <adeimantos@free.fr> wrote:
>
>> Hello List,
>>
>> Coming back after monthes to a complex work in progress with ConTeXt, I
>> am afraid to need help with this apparently easy-to-manage question of
>> printed titles.
>>
>> My document has a TOC, where one can read chapters, sections, and
>> subsections of the document. But, I can't achieve to print chapter titles.
> You have a space at the end of the title-key which becomes part of the key.
>
> Instead of passing the text to the key "title" you pass it to "title ",
> remove the space and the text will appear in the PDF.
>
> \startchapter[title ={Introduction}]
>                    ^^^
>
> Wolfgang
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