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I have that in old files which used to work under mkii. I must admit I haven't had the need to use overprinting since then, but I do recall that come colour handling wasn't ported across to mkiv or later. Duncan On Wed, 9 Nov 2022 at 16:12, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context < ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote: > I=E2=80=99m not sure if this ever worked, but at least in latest LMTX it = doesn=E2=80=99t: > > """ > \setupcolors[state=3Dstart,cmyk=3Dyes,rgb=3Dno,intent=3Doverprint] > > \starttext > > \framed[ > background=3Dcolor, > backgroundcolor=3Dyellow, > ]{\ss\bfd > Black should always overprint. > } > > \stoptext > """ > > The black text and frame border don=E2=80=99t overprint the yellow backgr= ound > but knockout. The only way to check this (that I know of) is Acrobat > Pro=E2=80=99s separation simulation; the screenshot shows a snippet of th= e > yellow separation. > > Actually, setting =E2=80=9Coverprint=E2=80=9D for all colors doesn=E2=80= =99t make sense, it > should be a setting for single color (but default for black): > > % desired interface: > \definecolor[overBlack][k=3D1,intent=3Doverprint] > > Hraban > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > --000000000000be756505ed0c1082 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Have you tried overprint=3Dyes? I have that in old files w= hich used to work under mkii. I must admit I haven't had the need to us= e overprinting since then, but I do recall that come colour handling wasn&#= 39;t ported across to mkiv or later.

Duncan
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On Wed,= 9 Nov 2022 at 16:12, Henning Hraban Ramm via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl> wrote:
I=E2=80=99m not sure if this eve= r worked, but at least in latest LMTX it doesn=E2=80=99t:

"""
\setupcolors[state=3Dstart,cmyk=3Dyes,rgb=3Dno,intent=3Doverprint]

\starttext

\framed[
=C2=A0 =C2=A0background=3Dcolor,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0backgroundcolor=3Dyellow,
]{\ss\bfd
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Black should always overprint.
}

\stoptext
"""

The black text and frame border don=E2=80=99t overprint the yellow backgrou= nd
but knockout. The only way to check this (that I know of) is Acrobat
Pro=E2=80=99s separation simulation; the screenshot shows a snippet of the =
yellow separation.

Actually, setting =E2=80=9Coverprint=E2=80=9D for all colors doesn=E2=80=99= t make sense, it
should be a setting for single color (but default for black):

% desired interface:
\definecolor[overBlack][k=3D1,intent=3Doverprint]

Hraban
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