From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/69999 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: John Haltiwanger Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Edit a ConTeXt generated document with Adobe Acrobat Professional Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:57:24 -0700 Message-ID: References: <4E1EFF0C.50401@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1018030696==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1310662664 7126 80.91.229.12 (14 Jul 2011 16:57:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 14 Jul 2011 16:57:44 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jul 14 18:57:37 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1QhPEF-0004mx-Ap for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:57:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3D67CAE3D; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:57:34 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id O0p90MfQl2hv; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:57:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1D9B4CAC8D; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:57:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C1CAECAC8D for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:57:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 6fDGe-N7jEBi for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:57:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (filter1-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.69]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1A16CCAB80 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:57:26 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f42.google.com (mail-fx0-f42.google.com [209.85.161.42]) by filter1-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p6EGvOU1019371 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 18:57:24 +0200 Original-Received: by fxe23 with SMTP id 23so1183880fxe.15 for ; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:57:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :content-type; bh=GUJm7EU7Kx94ULc6W5qSYkKrEE22foTJJsib4re+V7w=; b=bEd6eBuPX0FBHaZk8yqUm0/UlErUbVtM+cSC0SQROGkLa4/4Kwqg0OgwrEF4jA5a72 J5HHX4Z+v83gl0pUQRX7iFQ/sutzY/ZzAxdNYMUT4GbbIBUtUj6fOtsTZwQ21W+zcnbT ufW9mslClx6hFjyjBJu8qQyZG2iu7sqMsraok= Original-Received: by 10.223.6.198 with SMTP id a6mr3716982faa.126.1310662644604; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:57:24 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: by 10.223.111.13 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jul 2011 09:57:24 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.161.42; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06F7QVoMm - 01bd9d5ec23e - 20110714 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.69 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:69999 Archived-At: --===============1018030696== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=000e0cd3ff925a207904a80a6d38 --000e0cd3ff925a207904a80a6d38 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Cecil Westerhof wrote: > 2011/7/14 John Haltiwanger > >> I installed them. (When you know what to do, it is not hard.) Now I can >> change the document. The only problem is that when deleting a page, or >> adding a page, etc., the index and the page numbering does not change. But >> that could be that I do not understand Adobe. Five minutes is hardly enough >> to learn to work with it. >> >>> >>> >> This would be a funciton of typesetting. The table of contents is indexed >> to the document as it is typeset, not dynamically throughout its existence. >> If you were to delete all the pages except for the table of contents, it >> would still refer to all the same pages. >> >> If this is a necessary part of your workflow, then it sounds like a >> WYSIWYG tool like Scribus or InDesign is more appropriate (unfortunately). >> > > The problem is that my document already is finished. First I could just > deliver a PDF file. Now they want to edit it themselves. Or can I generate > from my tex file something that has the meta information and can be edited > in Scribus? > > Nope. As Mojca mentioned, PDF does not account for this kind of thing. I mentioned those tools as a basis for constructing an entire document from scratch. They have automatic page referencing similar to Context, but not in a post-hoc fashion. If they are only copy editing, I think you would be best served by exporting to xhtml. I generally write all my documents in Markdown and convert using Pandoc, so I'm not familiar with Context's xhtml capacities. If they are doing layout.. Ouch. --000e0cd3ff925a207904a80a6d38 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 9:51 AM, Cecil Westerhof <cldwesterhof@gmail.com>= wrote:
2011/7/14 John Haltiwanger <john.haltiwanger@gmail.com>
I installed them. (When you know what to do, it is not hard.) Now I can cha= nge the document. The only problem is that when deleting a page, or adding = a page, etc., the index and the page numbering=A0 does not change. But that= could be that I do not understand Adobe. Five minutes is hardly enough to = learn to work with it.


This would be a funciton = of typesetting. The table of contents is indexed to the document as it is t= ypeset, not dynamically throughout its existence. If you were to delete all= the pages except for the table of contents, it would still refer to all th= e same pages.

If this is a necessary part of your workflow, then it sounds like a WYS= IWYG tool like Scribus or InDesign is more appropriate (unfortunately).
=

The problem is that my document alr= eady is finished. First I could just deliver a PDF file. Now they want to e= dit it themselves. Or can I generate from my tex file something that has th= e meta information and can be edited in Scribus?


Nope. As Mojca mentioned, PDF does no= t account for this kind of thing. I mentioned those tools as a basis for co= nstructing an entire document from scratch. They have automatic page refere= ncing similar to Context, but not in a post-hoc fashion.

If they are only copy editing, I think you would be best served by expo= rting to xhtml. I generally write all my documents in Markdown and convert = using Pandoc, so I'm not familiar with Context's xhtml capacities.<= br>
If they are doing layout.. Ouch.
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