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* Getting copy-pastable ligatures?
@ 2014-11-30 12:22 Gerben Wierda
  2014-11-30 22:38 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2014-11-30 12:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I’m using mkii. I’d like ot be able to copy-paste words form the resulting pdf. That works well, except for words that contain ligatures (e.g. fl fi etc.) Is there a way I can tell (Con)TeXt that the result must be copy-pastable.

To make matters slightly more complex I’m using Optima, converted on a Mac:

\usetypescript[serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal]

% Bypassing type-gtamacfonts.tex
\starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [texnansi,ec]
\definefontsynonym [Optima-Regular] [\typescriptthree-OptimaRegular]
[encoding=\typescriptthree]
\definefontsynonym [Optima-Italic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaItalic]
[encoding=\typescriptthree]
\definefontsynonym [Optima-Bold] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBold]
[encoding=\typescriptthree]
\definefontsynonym [Optima-BoldItalic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBoldItalic]
[encoding=\typescriptthree]
\definefontsynonym [Optima-ExtraBlack] [\typescriptthree-OptimaExtraBlack]
[encoding=\typescriptthree]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [name]
\setups		   [font:fallback:\typescriptone]
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone] [Optima-Regular]
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Italic] [Optima-Italic]
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Bold]	[Optima-Bold]
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone BoldItalic]
[Optima-BoldItalic]
\definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Black] [Optima-ExtraBlack]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface[allsans][rm][serif][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
\definetypeface[allsans][ss][sans][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
\loadmapfile [gtamacfonts.map]
\setupbodyfont[allsans,10pt]


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* Re: Getting copy-pastable ligatures?
  2014-11-30 12:22 Getting copy-pastable ligatures? Gerben Wierda
@ 2014-11-30 22:38 ` Hans Hagen
  2014-12-04 14:54   ` Gerben Wierda
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-11-30 22:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: ntg-context

On 11/30/2014 1:22 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> I’m using mkii. I’d like ot be able to copy-paste words form the
> resulting pdf. That works well, except for words that contain ligatures
> (e.g. fl fi etc.) Is there a way I can tell (Con)TeXt that the result
> must be copy-pastable.
>
> To make matters slightly more complex I’m using Optima, converted on a Mac:
>
> \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal]
>
> % Bypassing type-gtamacfonts.tex
> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [texnansi,ec]
> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Regular] [\typescriptthree-OptimaRegular]
> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Italic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaItalic]
> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Bold] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBold]
> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
> \definefontsynonym [Optima-BoldItalic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBoldItalic]
> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
> \definefontsynonym [Optima-ExtraBlack] [\typescriptthree-OptimaExtraBlack]
> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
> \stoptypescript
> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [name]
> \setups  [font:fallback:\typescriptone]
> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone] [Optima-Regular]
> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Italic] [Optima-Italic]
> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Bold][Optima-Bold]
> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone BoldItalic]
> [Optima-BoldItalic]
> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Black]
> [Optima-ExtraBlack]
> \stoptypescript
> \definetypeface[allsans][rm][serif][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
> \definetypeface[allsans][ss][sans][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
> \loadmapfile [gtamacfonts.map]
> \setupbodyfont[allsans,10pt]

op zich zou het moeten werken (een tonunicode vector) als er een 
pdfr-*.mkii file is voor de encoding ... er is er eentje voor ec encoding

Hans


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* Re: Getting copy-pastable ligatures?
  2014-11-30 22:38 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2014-12-04 14:54   ` Gerben Wierda
  2014-12-04 15:22     ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gerben Wierda @ 2014-12-04 14:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 30 Nov 2014, at 23:38, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 11/30/2014 1:22 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>> I’m using mkii. I’d like ot be able to copy-paste words form the
>> resulting pdf. That works well, except for words that contain ligatures
>> (e.g. fl fi etc.) Is there a way I can tell (Con)TeXt that the result
>> must be copy-pastable.
>> 
>> To make matters slightly more complex I’m using Optima, converted on a Mac:
>> 
>> \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal]
>> 
>> % Bypassing type-gtamacfonts.tex
>> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [texnansi,ec]
>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Regular] [\typescriptthree-OptimaRegular]
>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Italic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaItalic]
>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Bold] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBold]
>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-BoldItalic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBoldItalic]
>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-ExtraBlack] [\typescriptthree-OptimaExtraBlack]
>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [name]
>> \setups  [font:fallback:\typescriptone]
>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone] [Optima-Regular]
>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Italic] [Optima-Italic]
>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Bold][Optima-Bold]
>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone BoldItalic]
>> [Optima-BoldItalic]
>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Black]
>> [Optima-ExtraBlack]
>> \stoptypescript
>> \definetypeface[allsans][rm][serif][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
>> \definetypeface[allsans][ss][sans][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
>> \loadmapfile [gtamacfonts.map]
>> \setupbodyfont[allsans,10pt]
> 
> op zich zou het moeten werken (een tonunicode vector) als er een pdfr-*.mkii file is voor de encoding ... er is er eentje voor ec encoding

Ik ben er niet zo in thuis, maar welke items in bij font setup moet ik dan wijzigen?

G

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* Re: Getting copy-pastable ligatures?
  2014-12-04 14:54   ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2014-12-04 15:22     ` Hans Hagen
  2014-12-05  9:13       ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2014-12-04 15:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 12/4/2014 3:54 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
> On 30 Nov 2014, at 23:38, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>
>> On 11/30/2014 1:22 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>>> I’m using mkii. I’d like ot be able to copy-paste words form the
>>> resulting pdf. That works well, except for words that contain ligatures
>>> (e.g. fl fi etc.) Is there a way I can tell (Con)TeXt that the result
>>> must be copy-pastable.
>>>
>>> To make matters slightly more complex I’m using Optima, converted on a Mac:
>>>
>>> \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal]
>>>
>>> % Bypassing type-gtamacfonts.tex
>>> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [texnansi,ec]
>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Regular] [\typescriptthree-OptimaRegular]
>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Italic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaItalic]
>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Bold] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBold]
>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-BoldItalic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBoldItalic]
>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-ExtraBlack] [\typescriptthree-OptimaExtraBlack]
>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>> \stoptypescript
>>> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [name]
>>> \setups  [font:fallback:\typescriptone]
>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone] [Optima-Regular]
>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Italic] [Optima-Italic]
>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Bold][Optima-Bold]
>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone BoldItalic]
>>> [Optima-BoldItalic]
>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Black]
>>> [Optima-ExtraBlack]
>>> \stoptypescript
>>> \definetypeface[allsans][rm][serif][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
>>> \definetypeface[allsans][ss][sans][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
>>> \loadmapfile [gtamacfonts.map]
>>> \setupbodyfont[allsans,10pt]
>>
>> op zich zou het moeten werken (een tonunicode vector) als er een pdfr-*.mkii file is voor de encoding ... er is er eentje voor ec encoding
>
> Ik ben er niet zo in thuis, maar welke items in bij font setup moet ik dan wijzigen?

texnansi -> ec

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* Re: Getting copy-pastable ligatures?
  2014-12-04 15:22     ` Hans Hagen
@ 2014-12-05  9:13       ` Gerben Wierda
  2015-01-26 16:25         ` Gerben Wierda
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 6+ messages in thread
From: Gerben Wierda @ 2014-12-05  9:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users


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On 04 Dec 2014, at 16:22, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:

> On 12/4/2014 3:54 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>> On 30 Nov 2014, at 23:38, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> 
>>> On 11/30/2014 1:22 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>>>> I’m using mkii. I’d like ot be able to copy-paste words form the
>>>> resulting pdf. That works well, except for words that contain ligatures
>>>> (e.g. fl fi etc.) Is there a way I can tell (Con)TeXt that the result
>>>> must be copy-pastable.
>>>> 
>>>> To make matters slightly more complex I’m using Optima, converted on a Mac:
>>>> 
>>>> \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal]
>>>> 
>>>> % Bypassing type-gtamacfonts.tex
>>>> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [texnansi,ec]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Regular] [\typescriptthree-OptimaRegular]
>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Italic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaItalic]
>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Bold] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBold]
>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-BoldItalic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBoldItalic]
>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-ExtraBlack] [\typescriptthree-OptimaExtraBlack]
>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>> \stoptypescript
>>>> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [name]
>>>> \setups  [font:fallback:\typescriptone]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone] [Optima-Regular]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Italic] [Optima-Italic]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Bold][Optima-Bold]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone BoldItalic]
>>>> [Optima-BoldItalic]
>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Black]
>>>> [Optima-ExtraBlack]
>>>> \stoptypescript
>>>> \definetypeface[allsans][rm][serif][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
>>>> \definetypeface[allsans][ss][sans][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
>>>> \loadmapfile [gtamacfonts.map]
>>>> \setupbodyfont[allsans,10pt]
>>> 
>>> op zich zou het moeten werken (een tonunicode vector) als er een pdfr-*.mkii file is voor de encoding ... er is er eentje voor ec encoding
>> 
>> Ik ben er niet zo in thuis, maar welke items in bij font setup moet ik dan wijzigen?
> 
> texnansi -> ec

I changed some of the last font statements to

\definetypeface[allsans][rm][serif][optima][default][encoding=ec]
\definetypeface[allsans][ss][sans][optima][default][encoding=ec]

but that does not help. Probably more is needed, but that requires a programmer-level knowledge of ConTeXt and not a user-level :-)

G

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* Re: Getting copy-pastable ligatures?
  2014-12-05  9:13       ` Gerben Wierda
@ 2015-01-26 16:25         ` Gerben Wierda
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From: Gerben Wierda @ 2015-01-26 16:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 05 Dec 2014, at 10:13, Gerben Wierda <Gerben.Wierda@rna.nl> wrote:

> 
> On 04 Dec 2014, at 16:22, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> 
>> On 12/4/2014 3:54 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>>> On 30 Nov 2014, at 23:38, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On 11/30/2014 1:22 PM, Gerben Wierda wrote:
>>>>> I’m using mkii. I’d like ot be able to copy-paste words form the
>>>>> resulting pdf. That works well, except for words that contain ligatures
>>>>> (e.g. fl fi etc.) Is there a way I can tell (Con)TeXt that the result
>>>>> must be copy-pastable.
>>>>> 
>>>>> To make matters slightly more complex I’m using Optima, converted on a Mac:
>>>>> 
>>>>> \usetypescript[serif,sans,mono] [hanging] [normal]
>>>>> 
>>>>> % Bypassing type-gtamacfonts.tex
>>>>> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [texnansi,ec]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Regular] [\typescriptthree-OptimaRegular]
>>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Italic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaItalic]
>>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-Bold] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBold]
>>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-BoldItalic] [\typescriptthree-OptimaBoldItalic]
>>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [Optima-ExtraBlack] [\typescriptthree-OptimaExtraBlack]
>>>>> [encoding=\typescriptthree]
>>>>> \stoptypescript
>>>>> \starttypescript [sans,serif] [optima] [name]
>>>>> \setups  [font:fallback:\typescriptone]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone] [Optima-Regular]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Italic] [Optima-Italic]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Bold][Optima-Bold]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone BoldItalic]
>>>>> [Optima-BoldItalic]
>>>>> \definefontsynonym [\typescriptprefix\typescriptone Black]
>>>>> [Optima-ExtraBlack]
>>>>> \stoptypescript
>>>>> \definetypeface[allsans][rm][serif][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
>>>>> \definetypeface[allsans][ss][sans][optima][default][encoding=texnansi]
>>>>> \loadmapfile [gtamacfonts.map]
>>>>> \setupbodyfont[allsans,10pt]
>>>> 
>>>> op zich zou het moeten werken (een tonunicode vector) als er een pdfr-*.mkii file is voor de encoding ... er is er eentje voor ec encoding
>>> 
>>> Ik ben er niet zo in thuis, maar welke items in bij font setup moet ik dan wijzigen?
>> 
>> texnansi -> ec
> 
> I changed some of the last font statements to
> 
> \definetypeface[allsans][rm][serif][optima][default][encoding=ec]
> \definetypeface[allsans][ss][sans][optima][default][encoding=ec]
> 
> but that does not help. Probably more is needed, but that requires a programmer-level knowledge of ConTeXt and not a user-level :-)


I’m still interested in a solution that enables me to do a full copy-paste including ligatures.

Another thing that would be OK if I can create a text/unicode output out of the ConTeXt project and copy/paste from that.

G


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