* Lucida small caps
@ 2020-02-15 15:34 Mikael P. Sundqvist
2020-02-15 20:50 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2020-02-15 15:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi,
One can easily enable small caps when using lucida, see the old mail
https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2018/090997.html .
Could this be added to the type script file?
/Mikael
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* Re: Lucida small caps
2020-02-15 15:34 Lucida small caps Mikael P. Sundqvist
@ 2020-02-15 20:50 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-02-15 20:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mikael P. Sundqvist,
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On 2/15/2020 4:34 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One can easily enable small caps when using lucida, see the old mail
> https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2018/090997.html .
>
> Could this be added to the type script file?
best use \smallcaps or somethign equivalent
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* Re: Lucida small caps
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@ 2020-02-16 10:34 ` Hans Hagen
2020-02-17 15:48 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-02-16 10:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mikael P. Sundqvist, mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 2/15/2020 10:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 9:50 PM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl
> <mailto:j.hagen@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
>
> On 2/15/2020 4:34 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > One can easily enable small caps when using lucida, see the old mail
> > https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2018/090997.html .
> >
> > Could this be added to the type script file?
>
> best use \smallcaps or somethign equivalent
> Ah, so it was the \sc that was the problem. Thanks!
\sc is more somthing mkii ... when type1 fonts (in an 8 bit universum)
smallcaps and oldstyle and such meant using a different font
nowadays one can turn them on/off as features and when you need them a
lot you can even define an extra bodyfont variant from them and switch
to that one when needed
now, when smallcaps and oldstyle etc became features instead of font
properties that didn't mean it always became easier because when
opentype came around there was no 'recipe' or possibility to define what
is default; for instance some fonts default to oldstyle in the sense
that these shapes are in the default slots and you need to turn them off
instead; also one needs to keep in mind that some features are language
/ script dependent and fonts differ in what they do default
summary: see smallcaps as features but always look at what the font
assumes and does by default; be prepared for inconsistencies (after all
this is why we want/need control over what context does with a font)
Hans
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* Re: Lucida small caps
2020-02-16 10:34 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2020-02-17 15:48 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2020-02-17 16:20 ` Hans Hagen
2020-02-17 18:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Mikael P. Sundqvist @ 2020-02-17 15:48 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Hans Hagen; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
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On Sun, Feb 16, 2020 at 11:34 AM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> On 2/15/2020 10:02 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 15, 2020 at 9:50 PM Hans Hagen <j.hagen@xs4all.nl
> > <mailto:j.hagen@xs4all.nl>> wrote:
> >
> > On 2/15/2020 4:34 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > One can easily enable small caps when using lucida, see the old
> mail
> > > https://mailman.ntg.nl/pipermail/ntg-context/2018/090997.html .
> > >
> > > Could this be added to the type script file?
> >
> > best use \smallcaps or somethign equivalent
>
> > Ah, so it was the \sc that was the problem. Thanks!
> \sc is more somthing mkii ... when type1 fonts (in an 8 bit universum)
> smallcaps and oldstyle and such meant using a different font
>
> nowadays one can turn them on/off as features and when you need them a
> lot you can even define an extra bodyfont variant from them and switch
> to that one when needed
>
> now, when smallcaps and oldstyle etc became features instead of font
> properties that didn't mean it always became easier because when
> opentype came around there was no 'recipe' or possibility to define what
> is default; for instance some fonts default to oldstyle in the sense
> that these shapes are in the default slots and you need to turn them off
> instead; also one needs to keep in mind that some features are language
> / script dependent and fonts differ in what they do default
>
> summary: see smallcaps as features but always look at what the font
> assumes and does by default; be prepared for inconsistencies (after all
> this is why we want/need control over what context does with a font)
>
> Hans
>
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>
That is good to know, thank you. While replacing all \sc with \smallcaps in
a document I work on, I realized that in a \setuphead I had
style={\sca},
What is the correct substitute for that?
/Mikael
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* Re: Lucida small caps
2020-02-17 15:48 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
@ 2020-02-17 16:20 ` Hans Hagen
2020-02-17 18:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2020-02-17 16:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Mikael P. Sundqvist; +Cc: mailing list for ConTeXt users
On 2/17/2020 4:48 PM, Mikael P. Sundqvist wrote:
> style={\sca},
\tf\smallcaps
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* Re: Lucida small caps
2020-02-17 15:48 ` Mikael P. Sundqvist
2020-02-17 16:20 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2020-02-17 18:40 ` Henning Hraban Ramm
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From: Henning Hraban Ramm @ 2020-02-17 18:40 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> style={\sca},
>
> What is the correct substitute for that?
Do your titles wear garb?
(SCA = Society for Creative Anachronism)
;D
HR
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