From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/38977 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Otared Kavian Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: ConTeXt book Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:51:10 +0100 Message-ID: References: <200802040027.13789.matija.suklje@rutka.net> <20080204180515.GA28560@phare.normalesup.org> <50AE7923-2CA4-4113-9204-CFDA461CAFD0@fiee.net> <49eb7fab0802060049y127fef19rd6448419e3341083@mail.gmail.com> <47A97FD7.8020500@elvenkind.com> <49eb7fab0802060150w565f3c4cm62d1a1e60452be8d@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v915) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0441130738==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1202295116 30956 80.91.229.12 (6 Feb 2008 10:51:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Feb 2008 10:51:56 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Feb 06 11:52:15 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JMhsz-0003OP-F4 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 11:52:13 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6437A1FC82; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:51:40 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12705-01-5; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:51:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 829D91FBD5; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:51:26 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C60CF1FBD5 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:51:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 12705-01-4 for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:51:19 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from an-out-0708.google.com (an-out-0708.google.com [209.85.132.251]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B7D581FBBE for ; Wed, 6 Feb 2008 11:51:16 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: by an-out-0708.google.com with SMTP id b20so626519ana.14 for ; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:51:15 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: by 10.101.70.5 with SMTP id x5mr20416907ank.59.1202295074579; Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:51:14 -0800 (PST) Original-Received: from ?10.0.1.2? ( [82.123.152.87]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id s10sm9203626mue.15.2008.02.06.02.51.12 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Wed, 06 Feb 2008 02:51:13 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <49eb7fab0802060150w565f3c4cm62d1a1e60452be8d@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.915) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:38977 Archived-At: --===============0441130738== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-649571526 --Apple-Mail-5-649571526 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=WINDOWS-1250; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all, Indeed the documents mentioned by Taco are great, but some time ago =20 there was a discussion on the list about an update of those manuals =20 (dating from 1999, according to the colofon) and about how we users =20 can contribute to the job by finding the possible bugs, errors, =20 misprints, etc. But us far as I know we, at least I, didn't do anything=85= Now in my opinion the idea of having a book is a good one: for =20 instance many of my students when writing reports and theses ask me =20 about a book on TeX or LaTeX, even though there are many electronic =20 documents about them freely available. Our library has the books by =20 Donald Knuth, Leslie Lamport and Raymond S=E9roul among others, and if =20= there were a book about ConTeXt I would certainly order at least two =20 for our library and one for myself. For making ConTeXt more popular =20 among mathematicians (or other academic users) I think it is good to =20 have books about it in libraries, since at first students look for =20 books before sticking to one of TeX flavors. Best regards: OK On 6 f=E9vr. 08, at 10:50, PChot wrote: > On Feb 6, 2008 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > Jan Kralji=E8 wrote: > > Hello, > > > > i think it would be great to have some basic documentation =20 > published. > > http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen ) > http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf (paper ) > > Is not what you had in mind? > > Pretty much something like that. (Paper version) > > I believe that no one would print this on printer. So I wonder if =20 > there would be interest for published book? > > Regards, Jan > > > --=20 > Macs are for those who don't want to know why their computer works. > Linux is for those who want to know why their computer works. > DOS is for those who want to know why their computer doesn't work. > Windows is for those who don't want to know why their computer =20 > doesn't work. =20 > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an =20 > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ --Apple-Mail-5-649571526 Content-Type: text/html; charset=WINDOWS-1250 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi all,

Indeed the documents = mentioned by Taco are great, but some time ago there was a discussion on = the list about an update of those manuals (dating from 1999, according = to the colofon) and about how we users can contribute to the job by = finding the possible bugs, errors, misprints, etc. But us far as I know = we, at least I, didn't do anything=85

Now in my opinion the idea = of having a book is a good one: for instance many of my students when = writing reports and theses ask me about a book on TeX or LaTeX, even = though there are many electronic documents about them freely available. = Our library has the books by Donald Knuth, Leslie Lamport and Raymond = S=E9roul among others, and if there were a book about ConTeXt I would = certainly order at least two for our library and one for myself. For = making ConTeXt more popular among mathematicians (or other academic = users) I think it is good to have books about it in libraries, since at = first students look for books before sticking to one of TeX = flavors.

Best = regards: OK


On 6 f=E9vr. = 08, at 10:50, PChot wrote:

On Feb 6, = 2008 10:37 AM, Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com> = wrote:


Jan Kralji=E8 = wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i think it would be great to have = some basic documentation published.

http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/ms-cb-en.pdf (screen )
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/mp-cb-en.pdf (paper )

Is not what you had in = mind?
Pretty much something like = that. (Paper version)

I believe that no one would print this on = printer. So I wonder if there would be interest for published = book?

Regards, Jan


--
Macs are for those who = don't want to know why their computer works.
Linux is for those who = want to know why their computer works.
DOS is for those who want to = know why their computer doesn't work.
Windows is for those who don't = want to know why their computer doesn't work. = __________________________________________________________________________= _________
If your question is of interest to others as well, please = add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/= mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive =  : https://foundry.s= upelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
________= __________________________________________________________________________= _

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