From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/83528 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Wolfgang Schuster Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Opening quotes problem with context. 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[2.242.44.190]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id a4sm67237586eez.0.2013.07.24.09.13.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 24 Jul 2013 09:13:19 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <87zjtct36a.fsf@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1508) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:4013:c00::233; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01K4gdlOI - 36bf5aa71e1e - 20130724 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:83528 Archived-At: Am 24.07.2013 um 16:58 schrieb David Rogers : > john Culleton writes: > = >> Did a fresh install of context etc. from the context site. I used this >> test file: >> ------------------------------- >> \starttext >> ``Hello world.'' And ``Goodbye world.'' >> \stoptext >> %\bye >> ----------------------------------------- >> The resulting pdf shows two left tick marks for opening quotes but the >> closing quotes are proper curly quotes. >> = >> If I modify the file as follows: >> ------------------------------- >> %\starttext >> ``Hello world.'' And ``Goodbye world.'' >> %\stoptext >> \bye >> --------------------------- >> and use luatex or pdftex from texlive the quotes are OK. = >> = >> I got similar results from context in texlive 2012 and texlive 2013. >> = >> What is the proper code for opening quotes in context? > = > = > The "truly proper" code is \quotation{Hello world.} - that style is > guaranteed to work. (And, for instance, if you change context's language > to French, then \quotation{Bonjour monde.} will automatically give you > the correct style of French quotation marks without having to look up > how to type them; likewise for other languages.) There is nothing wrong by using =84 =93 =94 =AB =BB etc. for quotations. Wh= en you use \quotation etc. you don=92t have to bother about the correct marks for your language (you can also change them) but the code is easier to read when you use the real signs. > I think the problem of the two left tick marks may come from web browser > copy-and-paste. Special marks, especially the quotation marks, > apostrophes, and tick marks, are often mangled when converting to and > from HTML. When copying any program's code from a web page, watch out > for those marks, they've probably been mis-transcribed by the too-clever > HTML rendering. What John wrote is valid in plain TeX where fonts replaced `` and '' with the proper characters in MkIV this feature was dropped because you can use \quotation or write the characters in your text. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________