* alternate end glyphs in MKIV
@ 2009-10-05 21:30 Jeremy
2009-10-06 6:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Jeremy @ 2009-10-05 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi all,
I want to get alternate end glyphs. Am I going about it correctly?
I'm using the latext context minimals.
The following compiles fine using the context command, but 'illustrate'
ends with a normal e, not the e.end alternative.
--------- test.tex ------------------------
\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][features={mode=node,fina=yes}]
\starttext
Text to illustrate
\stoptext
--------- end -----------------------------
Thanks for your help,
Jeremy
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-05 21:30 alternate end glyphs in MKIV Jeremy
@ 2009-10-06 6:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-10-06 7:39 ` Diego Depaoli
2009-10-06 18:53 ` Jeremy Hughes
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-10-06 6:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 05.10.2009 um 23:30 schrieb Jeremy:
> Hi all,
>
> I want to get alternate end glyphs. Am I going about it correctly?
>
> I'm using the latext context minimals.
>
> The following compiles fine using the context command, but
> 'illustrate'
> ends with a normal e, not the e.end alternative.
>
> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][features={mode=node,fina=yes}]
\setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][script=latin,terminalforms=yes]
You need the latest version because 'terminalforms' (fina) wasn't
available
in previous ones and the script option is also new (and required here).
Wolfgang
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-06 6:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-10-06 7:39 ` Diego Depaoli
2009-10-06 7:42 ` luigi scarso
2009-10-06 18:53 ` Jeremy Hughes
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From: Diego Depaoli @ 2009-10-06 7:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> I want to get alternate end glyphs. Am I going about it correctly?
>>
>> I'm using the latext context minimals.
^^^^^^^ nice typo :-)
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-06 7:39 ` Diego Depaoli
@ 2009-10-06 7:42 ` luigi scarso
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From: luigi scarso @ 2009-10-06 7:42 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 9:39 AM, Diego Depaoli <trebestie@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 6, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Wolfgang Schuster
> <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> I want to get alternate end glyphs. Am I going about it correctly?
> >>
> >> I'm using the latext context minimals.
> ^^^^^^^ nice typo :-)
>
uh-oh, actually I'm experimenting with pdflualatex into the minimals too..
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-06 6:09 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-10-06 7:39 ` Diego Depaoli
@ 2009-10-06 18:53 ` Jeremy Hughes
2009-10-06 20:33 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Jeremy Hughes @ 2009-10-06 18:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Wolfgang,
Thanks for your help.
Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
> Am 05.10.2009 um 23:30 schrieb Jeremy:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I want to get alternate end glyphs. Am I going about it correctly?
>>
>> I'm using the latext context minimals.
>>
>> The following compiles fine using the context command, but 'illustrate'
>> ends with a normal e, not the e.end alternative.
>>
>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][features={mode=node,fina=yes}]
>
> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][script=latin,terminalforms=yes]
This gives me terminal forms, but too many of them. I've marked where
they appear in the following phrase.
Secret far service
^ ^ ^ ^ ^
It looks like they're substituted at the end of every word and
hyphenation point.
Is there any way to have the substitution occur at the end of sentences only?
> You need the latest version because 'terminalforms' (fina) wasn't available
> in previous ones and the script option is also new (and required here).
How do I find this sort of information? I found 'fina' by browsing
through context's otf related files, but grepping all of minimals for
'terminalforms' yields nothing.
Jeremy
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-06 18:53 ` Jeremy Hughes
@ 2009-10-06 20:33 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-10-06 23:25 ` Jeremy Hughes
2009-10-07 10:10 ` Hans Hagen
2010-02-23 11:45 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-10-06 20:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 06.10.2009 um 20:53 schrieb Jeremy Hughes:
>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][script=latin,terminalforms=yes]
>
> This gives me terminal forms, but too many of them. I've marked where
> they appear in the following phrase.
>
> Secret far service
> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
>
> It looks like they're substituted at the end of every word and
> hyphenation point.
>
> Is there any way to have the substitution occur at the end of
> sentences only?
Since it appears also in the following minimal example it's either
a bug in context or in the font itself.
\definefontfeature[fina][mode=node,script=latn,fina=yes]
\starttext
{\definedfont[name:megalopolisextra*fina]Secret far service}
\stoptext
>> You need the latest version because 'terminalforms' (fina) wasn't
>> available
>> in previous ones and the script option is also new (and required
>> here).
>
> How do I find this sort of information? I found 'fina' by browsing
> through context's otf related files, but grepping all of minimals for
> 'terminalforms' yields nothing.
you can find in font-ott.lua the following line:
['fina'] = 'Terminal Forms',
to use the feature with my module you need the long name as key, it
doesn't
matter wether you write 'Terminal Forms' (uppercase/lowercase with
spaces),
'terminal forms' (lowercase with spaces) or 'terminalforms' (lowercase
without
spaces) but i prefer the third alternative because it follows
context’s syntax.
Wolfgang
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-06 20:33 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-10-06 23:25 ` Jeremy Hughes
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From: Jeremy Hughes @ 2009-10-06 23:25 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
> Am 06.10.2009 um 20:53 schrieb Jeremy Hughes:
>
>>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][script=latin,terminalforms=yes]
>>
>> This gives me terminal forms, but too many of them.
>>
>> Is there any way to have the substitution occur at the end of sentences only?
>
> Since it appears also in the following minimal example it's either
> a bug in context or in the font itself.
>
> \definefontfeature[fina][mode=node,script=latn,fina=yes]
> \starttext
> {\definedfont[name:megalopolisextra*fina]Secret far service}
> \stoptext
Ok.
Which files in minimals should I be looking at to see what's going on?
Jeremy
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-06 18:53 ` Jeremy Hughes
2009-10-06 20:33 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-10-07 10:10 ` Hans Hagen
2009-10-07 10:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-10-07 22:20 ` Jeremy Hughes
2010-02-23 11:45 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-10-07 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][features={mode=node,fina=yes}]
>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][script=latin,terminalforms=yes]
>
> This gives me terminal forms, but too many of them. I've marked where
> they appear in the following phrase.
>
> Secret far service
> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
>
> It looks like they're substituted at the end of every word and
> hyphenation point.
>
> Is there any way to have the substitution occur at the end of sentences only?
this is quite doable (but not implemented yet) .. it falls into a
different category of feature applications (probably doable with one of
the experimental mechanisms i made for idris)
what font is that?
Hans
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-07 10:10 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-10-07 10:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-10-07 22:20 ` Jeremy Hughes
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2009-10-07 10:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 07.10.2009 um 12:10 schrieb Hans Hagen:
>> Is there any way to have the substitution occur at the end of
>> sentences only?
>
> this is quite doable (but not implemented yet) .. it falls into a
> different category of feature applications (probably doable with one
> of the experimental mechanisms i made for idris)
>
> what font is that?
http://www.smeltery.net/fonts/megalopolis-extra
Wolfgang
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-07 10:10 ` Hans Hagen
2009-10-07 10:21 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2009-10-07 22:20 ` Jeremy Hughes
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From: Jeremy Hughes @ 2009-10-07 22:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> writes:
> Jeremy Hughes wrote:
>
>>>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][features={mode=node,fina=yes}]
>>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][script=latin,terminalforms=yes]
>>
>> Is there any way to have the substitution occur at the end of sentences only?
>
> this is quite doable (but not implemented yet) .. it falls into a different
> category of feature applications (probably doable with one of the experimental
> mechanisms i made for idris)
What files should I look at if I want to try to put something together
myself? I tried modifying luatex-fonts-merged.lua to no effect (in fact,
when I removed it entirely there was no change).
Jeremy
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* Re: alternate end glyphs in MKIV
2009-10-06 18:53 ` Jeremy Hughes
2009-10-06 20:33 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2009-10-07 10:10 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2010-02-23 11:45 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-02-23 11:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 6-10-2009 20:53, Jeremy Hughes wrote:
> Hi Wolfgang,
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Wolfgang Schuster<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> writes:
>
>> Am 05.10.2009 um 23:30 schrieb Jeremy:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I want to get alternate end glyphs. Am I going about it correctly?
>>>
>>> I'm using the latext context minimals.
>>>
>>> The following compiles fine using the context command, but 'illustrate'
>>> ends with a normal e, not the e.end alternative.
>>>
>>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][features={mode=node,fina=yes}]
>>
>> \setmainfont[MEgalopolis Extra][script=latin,terminalforms=yes]
>
> This gives me terminal forms, but too many of them. I've marked where
> they appear in the following phrase.
>
> Secret far service
> ^ ^ ^ ^ ^
>
> It looks like they're substituted at the end of every word and
> hyphenation point.
>
> Is there any way to have the substitution occur at the end of sentences only?
fixed in upcoming beta
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