From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/16646 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Thomas A.Schmitz Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Undefined control sequence. \c!gebied Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:32:34 +0200 Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: <416AA6B4.4060203@wxs.nl> <416ACC70.2090706@wxs.nl> <416AE717.3010704@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v619) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097660131 13964 80.91.229.6 (13 Oct 2004 09:35:31 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 09:35:31 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Oct 13 11:35:19 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CHfXT-0007nf-00 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:19 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5B07712796; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 20221-04; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 81B651277B; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7FCBB1277B for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:15 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 19984-08 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mailout03.sul.t-online.com (unknown [194.25.134.81]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8880012772 for ; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:14 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from fwd11.aul.t-online.de by mailout03.sul.t-online.com with smtp id 1CHfXO-0004kf-06; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:14 +0200 Original-Received: from [192.168.0.2] (XNqAPcZSQeCmAVFWKiiBP9tcdzOEu7XJ4eRn9a--R2PI+q1rMZD5UU@[217.226.99.121]) by fmrl11.sul.t-online.com with esmtp id 1CHfXH-11UvCq0; Wed, 13 Oct 2004 11:35:07 +0200 In-Reply-To: <416AE717.3010704@wxs.nl> Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.619) X-ID: XNqAPcZSQeCmAVFWKiiBP9tcdzOEu7XJ4eRn9a--R2PI+q1rMZD5UU@t-dialin.net X-TOI-MSGID: 83fe61b0-9648-4d5b-ae20-bac90a889b7f X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:16646 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:16646 Dear Hans and all, again, thanks for your help! Everything is working as it should now. After asking on the TeX on OSX mailing-list, I found out that there was an experimental installation that already contains pdftex 1.20a, so I upgraded. I changed texmf.cnf as you suggested to Christopher Creutzig yesterday, regenerated mapfiles, and everything's bright again. But I was sweating and cursing... If it hadn't been for a complete backup of my old TeX installation on my second hard drive and your wonderful help, I would have had a lot of serious troubles. I guess that's a general problem with TeX installations: originally, they were made for UNIX mainframes maintained by knowledgeable sys admins who would likely know how to cope with such a situation. Nowadays, I assume that the majority of TeX users sit in front of their own box, and even though I can do some things on the command line and have by now acquired a reasonabel amount of TeXpertise, I would have been absolutely helpless without you and Gerben's great installer. So you're absolutely right: downward compatibility is broken; it is difficult to make local changes without wiping the entire installation. That's what you get from being impatient... All best, and thanks Thomas On Oct 11, 2004, at 10:03 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > i'll try to keep texmfstart as compatibile as possible; there has been > a change in tds with regards to scripts (interestingly context was the > first to come with such scripts and the rule was to use /context/...); > when more package came with scripts tds was changed and now it's > /scripts/... ; the problem is that there is no strong urge to be > downward compatible (i tried to convince them in change but in vain) > and since kpsewhich now uses another --format directive for such > scripts, downward compatibility in my opinion is broken (all scripts > that somehow use kpse to determine what to run will fail from now on, > unless changed); so, this is why i cooked up texmfstart: it tries to > be clever in determining what to call. (You cannot imagine how much of > my local and project trees and scripts i had to adapt; a lot of wasted > time)