Fonts problem

Fonts problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Hi all,
On a fresh installed done following (very exactly)

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation,
 
I get the following message with this :
.............................
\starttext
àéèçù
\oe \"a
\stoptext
.............................

kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 ec-lmr12
mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
xdvi: Can't find pixel font ec-lmr12; using cmr10 instead at 600 dpi.
xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 224 not defined in font cmr10
xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 233 not defined in font cmr10
xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 232 not defined in font cmr10
xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 231 not defined in font cmr10
xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 249 not defined in font cmr10
xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 247 not defined in font cmr10
xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 228 not defined in font cmr10

Something's obviously missing in my install ... but what?
tia
-- 
Jean

Re: Fonts problem

[Renaud AUBIN]

Hi Jean,

Your example works here...
I'm not a font guru but it is maybe more interesting for you to use
type1 fonts. Depending on which linux distro you use, you have to tell
tetex to use type1. On my debian testing box, I have uncommented "Map
lm.map" in /etc/texmf/updmap.d/10tetex-base.cfg and sudo update-updmap
(as I remember...).

I'm not sure this will solve your problem but you can try anyway since
IMHO, it's better to have type1 fonts instead of bitmap...

Moreover, if you want correct language settings for french, you should
better write:

\setupoutput[pdf]
\useencoding[ffr]
\mainlanguage[fr]

\starttext
àéèçù
\oe \"a
\stoptext

Cordialement ;)

Renaud


Jean Magnan de Bornier a écrit :

>Hi all,
>On a fresh installed done following (very exactly)
>
>http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation,
> 
>I get the following message with this :
>.............................
>\starttext
>àéèçù
>\oe \"a
>\stoptext
>.............................
>
>kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 ec-lmr12
>mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
>kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
>xdvi: Can't find pixel font ec-lmr12; using cmr10 instead at 600 dpi.
>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 224 not defined in font cmr10
>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 233 not defined in font cmr10
>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 232 not defined in font cmr10
>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 231 not defined in font cmr10
>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 249 not defined in font cmr10
>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 247 not defined in font cmr10
>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 228 not defined in font cmr10
>
>Something's obviously missing in my install ... but what?
>tia
>  
>

Re: Fonts problem

[Hans Hagen]

Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> Hi all,
> On a fresh installed done following (very exactly)
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation,
>  
> I get the following message with this :
> .............................
> \starttext
> �����
> \oe \"a
> \stoptext
> .............................
>
> kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 ec-lmr12
> mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
> kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
> xdvi: Can't find pixel font ec-lmr12; using cmr10 instead at 600 dpi.
> xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 224 not defined in font cmr10
> xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 233 not defined in font cmr10
> xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 232 not defined in font cmr10
> xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 231 not defined in font cmr10
> xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 249 not defined in font cmr10
> xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 247 not defined in font cmr10
> xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 228 not defined in font cmr10
>
> Something's obviously missing in my install ... but what?
> tia
>   
i dunno where xdvi gets its info from, but it should use latin modern 
instead of cmr but then, there are no mf sources of latin modern; can 
xdvi use type 1 fonts?

(is there a reason why you use xdvi?)

Hans

-- 

-----------------------------------------------------------------
                                          Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
     tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
                                             | www.pragma-pod.nl
-----------------------------------------------------------------

_______________________________________________
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

Re: Fonts problem

[Renaud AUBIN]

[-- Attachment #1.1: Type: text/plain, Size: 6045 bytes --]


Sorry for my first post, I have misunderstood the problem...

I have checked your example with texexec --dvi + viewing it in xdvi: no
problem at all...

The complete log to see what happened:

_______________________________________________________
renaud@rescue:~/ConTeXt/temp$ texexec --dvi test
TeXExec | processing document 'test'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file test.top
TeXExec | tex engine: pdfetex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
TeXExec | progname: context
This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.141592-1.30.6-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
 \write18 enabled.
 (/home/renaud/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./test.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2006.05.18 20:03  fmt: 2006.5.23  int: english  mes: english

language        : language en is active
<protectionstate 0>
system          : cont-new loaded
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-new.tex
systems         : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.tex
color           : palette rollover is available
)
system          : cont-old loaded
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-old.tex
loading         : Context Old Macros
)
system          : cont-fil loaded
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/cont-fil.tex
loading         : Context File Synonyms
)
system          : cont-sys loaded
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/user/cont-sys.tex
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/type-exa.tex)
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/type-syn.tex)
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/type-enc.tex)
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/type-siz.tex)
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/type-map.tex)
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/type-spe.tex)
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/type-akb.tex))
bodyfont        : 12pt rm is loaded
language        : patterns nl->texnansi:texnansi->1->2:3
nl->ec:ec->2->2:3 fr->
texnansi:texnansi->3->2:3 fr->ec:ec->4->2:3
de->texnansi:texnansi->5->2:3 de->e
c:ec->6->2:3 it->texnansi:texnansi->7->2:3 it->ec:ec->8->2:3
pt->texnansi:texna
nsi->9->2:3 pt->ec:ec->10->2:3 hr->ec:ec->11->2:3 pl->pl0:pl0->12->2:3
pl->ec:e
c->13->2:3 pl->qx:qx->14->2:3 cz->il2:il2->15->2:3 cz->ec:ec->16->2:3
sk->il2:i
l2->17->2:3 sk->ec:ec->18->2:3 sl->ec:ec->19->2:3 en->ec:ec->21->2:3
uk->ec:ec-
>22->2:3 us->ec:ec->23->2:3 agr->agr:agr->24->2:3 da->ec:ec->25->2:3
sv->ec:ec-
>26->2:3 af->ec:ec->27->2:3 no->ec:ec->28->2:3 deo->ec:ec->29->2:3
es->ec:ec->3
0->2:3 ca->ec:ec->31->2:3 la->ec:ec->32->2:3 ro->ec:ec->33->2:3
tr->ec:ec->34->
2:3 fi->ec:ec->36->2:3 hu->ec:ec->37->2:3 loaded
specials        : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
system          : test.top loaded
(./test.top
specials        : loading definition file dvi
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-dvi.tex)
specials        : tex loaded
specials        : loading definition file ps
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-ps.tex)
specials        : tex,postscript loaded
specials        : loading definition file tr
(/home/renaud/texmf/tex/context/base/spec-tr.tex)
specials        : tex,postscript,rokicki loaded
)
systems         : system commands are enabled
(./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
(./test.tuo)
(./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo) (./test.tuo)
(./test.tuo)
systems         : begin file test at line 5
fonts           : resetting map file list
fonts           : using map file: original-base
fonts           : using map file: ec-public-lm
fonts           : using map file: ec-base
fonts           : using map file: 8r-base
fonts           : using map file: t5-base
fonts           : using map file: original-ams-base
fonts           : using map file: original-public-lm
[1.1]
systems         : end file test at line 8
 )
Output written on test.dvi (1 page, 396 bytes).
Transcript written on test.log.
TeXUtil | parsing file test.tui
TeXUtil | shortcuts : 0
TeXUtil | expansions: 0
TeXUtil | reductions: 0
TeXUtil | divisions : 0
TeXUtil | loaded files: 1
TeXUtil | commands: 17
TeXUtil | programs: 0
TeXUtil | tuo file saved
This is dvips(k) 5.95a Copyright 2005 Radical Eye Software
(www.radicaleye.com)
' TeX output 2006.05.31:1339' -> test.ps
<tex.pro><lm-ec.enc><texps.pro>. <lmr12.pfb>[1]
TeXExec | runtime: 0.805801
_______________________________________________________

xdvi does't complain about pk fonts at all... but I cannot say more
about xdvi since I don't use it...

I've just found that http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/t1mapper.1.html
=> xdvi can use t1 fonts ;)


Hans Hagen a écrit :

>Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi all,
>>On a fresh installed done following (very exactly)
>>
>>http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation,
>> 
>>I get the following message with this :
>>.............................
>>\starttext
>>�����
>>\oe \"a
>>\stoptext
>>.............................
>>
>>kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 ec-lmr12
>>mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
>>kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
>>xdvi: Can't find pixel font ec-lmr12; using cmr10 instead at 600 dpi.
>>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 224 not defined in font cmr10
>>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 233 not defined in font cmr10
>>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 232 not defined in font cmr10
>>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 231 not defined in font cmr10
>>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 249 not defined in font cmr10
>>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 247 not defined in font cmr10
>>xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 228 not defined in font cmr10
>>
>>Something's obviously missing in my install ... but what?
>>tia
>>  
>>    
>>
>i dunno where xdvi gets its info from, but it should use latin modern 
>instead of cmr but then, there are no mf sources of latin modern; can 
>xdvi use type 1 fonts?
>
>(is there a reason why you use xdvi?)
>
>Hans
>
>  
>


[-- Attachment #1.2: Type: text/html, Size: 7724 bytes --]

[-- Attachment #2: Type: text/plain, Size: 139 bytes --]

_______________________________________________
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

Re: Fonts problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 31 mai à 13:33:18 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> écrit notamment:

| Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
| > Hi all,
| > On a fresh installed done following (very exactly)
| >
| > http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation,
| >  
| > I get the following message with this :
| > .............................
| > \starttext
| > �����
| > \oe \"a
| > \stoptext
| > .............................
| >
| > kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 ec-lmr12
| > mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for ec-lmr12.
| > kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log.
| > xdvi: Can't find pixel font ec-lmr12; using cmr10 instead at 600 dpi.
| > xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 224 not defined in font cmr10
| > xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 233 not defined in font cmr10
| > xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 232 not defined in font cmr10
| > xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 231 not defined in font cmr10
| > xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 249 not defined in font cmr10
| > xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 247 not defined in font cmr10
| > xdvi-motif.bin: Warning: Character 228 not defined in font cmr10
| >
| > Something's obviously missing in my install ... but what?
| > tia
| >   
| i dunno where xdvi gets its info from, but it should use latin modern 
| instead of cmr but then, there are no mf sources of latin modern; can 
| xdvi use type 1 fonts?
>
| (is there a reason why you use xdvi?)
(just a viewer for dvi files, does it matter?)

Well, since the first post I ran updmap-sys, and then suddenly the dvi
file is as expected; but with the pdf option I get something unexpected:
instead of blank for accented letters (when I posted first) there are now
sometimes other characters than those I type (I'll send the pdf file if it
can help).

Thanks Renaud and Hans,  
-- 
Jean
_______________________________________________
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

Re: Fonts problem

[Renaud AUBIN]

Can you upload the pdf on a website (instead of the ML)?

IMHO, problems with accentuated chars can come from the use of
heterogeneous encodings (emacs unicode + context ec for example as I
experienced). Check the encoding of your input file with "file
test.tex", if you get something like "ISO-8859 text" and you use ec or
texnansi in cont-sys.tex, the problem is not encoding-related.
...

It can help if you send the output messages of texexec...

Jean Magnan de Bornier a écrit :

>(just a viewer for dvi files, does it matter?)
>
>Well, since the first post I ran updmap-sys, and then suddenly the dvi
>file is as expected; but with the pdf option I get something unexpected:
>instead of blank for accented letters (when I posted first) there are now
>sometimes other characters than those I type (I'll send the pdf file if it
>can help).
>
>Thanks Renaud and Hans,  
>  
>

_______________________________________________
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

Re: Fonts problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 31 mai à 14:30:33 Jean Magnan de Bornier <jm.bornier@free.fr> écrit notamment:

| but with the pdf option I get something unexpected:

And here's what texexec says about that:
..........................
Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/dvipdfm/con
text/original-base.map): invalid entry for `fmvr8x': font file missing

Same message for:

 `xycmat11' `xycmbt11' `xyeuat11' `xyeubt11' `xycmat12' `xycmbt12'
 `xyeuat12' `xyeubt12'
..........................

Also missing, from /original-ams-base.map):  `lcircle10' `lcirclew10'

Also missing, from `cmbsy6' `cmbsy8' `cmbsy9' `cmex7' `cmex8' `cmex9'
`cmmib6' `cmmib8' `cmmib9'

So, what could/should I do? (you have noticed I understand nothing to
fonts, haven't you?)
tia,
-- 
Jean

Re: Fonts problem

[Renaud AUBIN]

There is apparently a big problem in your installation but you already
known that... I have not used
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/TeTeX_3.0_installation since I use debian
(apt-get rules). Consequently, we are on the bounds of my knowledge on
this problem...
I assume you need LaTeX (like me :( ), if this is wrong, you'd better
use the standalone ConTeXt for linux.
If you are on debian, I know that
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Debian_installation works very well (+some
tricks with updmap to use t1 fonts)...

Reinstallation is the worst case, so maybe a ConTeXt guru can help...
Sorry...

Jean Magnan de Bornier a écrit :

>Le 31 mai à 14:30:33 Jean Magnan de Bornier <jm.bornier@free.fr> écrit notamment:
>
>| but with the pdf option I get something unexpected:
>
>And here's what texexec says about that:
>..........................
>Warning: pdfetex (file /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/dvipdfm/con
>text/original-base.map): invalid entry for `fmvr8x': font file missing
>
>Same message for:
>
> `xycmat11' `xycmbt11' `xyeuat11' `xyeubt11' `xycmat12' `xycmbt12'
> `xyeuat12' `xyeubt12'
>..........................
>
>Also missing, from /original-ams-base.map):  `lcircle10' `lcirclew10'
>
>Also missing, from `cmbsy6' `cmbsy8' `cmbsy9' `cmex7' `cmex8' `cmex9'
>`cmmib6' `cmmib8' `cmmib9'
>
>So, what could/should I do? (you have noticed I understand nothing to
>fonts, haven't you?)
>tia,
>  
>

Re: Fonts problem

[nico]

On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:21:15 +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier  
<jm.bornier@free.fr> wrote:

> Le 31 mai à 14:30:33 Jean Magnan de Bornier <jm.bornier@free.fr> écrit  
> notamment:
>
> | but with the pdf option I get something unexpected:
>
> And here's what texexec says about that:
> ..........................
> Warning: pdfetex (file  
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/dvipdfm/con
> text/original-base.map): invalid entry for `fmvr8x': font file missing

I had the same trouble. As Hans said:

your texmf.cnf file should contain:

TEXFONTMAPS =
.;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{$progname,pdftex,dvips,}//;$TEXMF/{$progname,pdftex,dvips}/{config,}//

Maybe something should be written on wiki about these dvipdfm font  
troubles that cover many threads now.

Regards,
BG

Re: Fonts problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 31 mai à 19:09:41 nico <nicolas.marsgui@libertysurf.fr> écrit notamment:

| On Wed, 31 May 2006 15:21:15 +0200, Jean Magnan de Bornier  
| <jm.bornier@free.fr> wrote:
>
| > Le 31 mai à 14:30:33 Jean Magnan de Bornier <jm.bornier@free.fr> écrit  
| > notamment:
| >
| > | but with the pdf option I get something unexpected:
| >
| > And here's what texexec says about that:
| > ..........................
| > Warning: pdfetex (file  
| > /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf-local/fonts/map/dvipdfm/con
| > text/original-base.map): invalid entry for `fmvr8x': font file missing
>
| I had the same trouble. As Hans said:
>
| your texmf.cnf file should contain:
>
| TEXFONTMAPS =
| .;$TEXMF/fonts/map/{$progname,pdftex,dvips,}//;$TEXMF/{$progname,pdftex,dvips}/{config,}//
>
| Maybe something should be written on wiki about these dvipdfm font  
| troubles that cover many threads now.

[...]

Yes, that was it, thanks a lot!!
You're quite right about putting this in the howto, it should be done, and
maybe also add something about the files texexec.ini and cont-sys.tex.

Renaud: I looked at the page about a debian install, it should be easy to
adapt this to other distros, like gentoo for instance which has up to date
tetex versions.  

Thx to all
-- 
Jean

Re: Fonts problem

[Renaud AUBIN]

I don't know well gentoo but I believe that this distro is based on
debian stable => tetex 2

Jean Magnan de Bornier a écrit :

>
>Renaud: I looked at the page about a debian install, it should be easy to
>adapt this to other distros, like gentoo for instance which has up to date
>tetex versions.  
>
>Thx to all
>  
>

Re: Fonts problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 31 mai à 23:51:44 Renaud AUBIN <aubin@nibua-r.org> écrit notamment:

| I don't know well gentoo but I believe that this distro is based on
| debian stable => tetex 2
Hmm, no: gentoo is distro where every package is optimally *compiled* by
your machine, and tetex version right now is " 3.0_p1-r3"

cheers
-- 
Jean

Re: Fonts problem

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:52 AM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

> Hmm, no: gentoo is distro where every package is optimally  
> *compiled* by
> your machine, and tetex version right now is " 3.0_p1-r3"
>
> cheers
> -- 
> Jean

That's not quite right: if you run the stable gentoo branch, you get  
version 2.0.2-r8. The version you mention is in unstable. I have  
played with several linux distros and think that the tetex setup for  
gentoo is unnecessarily complicated. But it's good to see that gentoo  
is now including an experimental texlive package: http:// 
packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=texlive Given the demise of  
tetex, this may be an important step.

Best

Thomas

Re: Fonts problem

[Taco Hoekwater]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:52 AM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> 
> That's not quite right: if you run the stable gentoo branch, you get  
> version 2.0.2-r8. 

As we have seen in BachoTeX this year, for ConTeXt users this is
simply worthless.

Taco

Re: Fonts problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 01 juin à 09:56:46 "Thomas A. Schmitz" <thomas.schmitz@uni-bonn.de> 
écrit notamment:

| On Jun 1, 2006, at 5:52 AM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
>
| > Hmm, no: gentoo is distro where every package is optimally  
| > *compiled* by
| > your machine, and tetex version right now is " 3.0_p1-r3"
| >
| > cheers
| > -- 
| > Jean
>
| That's not quite right: if you run the stable gentoo branch, you get  
| version 2.0.2-r8. The version you mention is in unstable. 

Yes, you're right; however in gentoo you don't really run a branch, you
manage versions on a package basis rather than a system-wide basis. 

| I have played with several linux distros and think that the tetex setup
| for gentoo is unnecessarily complicated. But it's good to see that
| gentoo is now including an experimental texlive package: http://
| packages.gentoo.org/search/?sstring=texlive Given the demise of tetex,
| this may be an important step.
>
Yes, there has been an interesting piece of information on this point:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/38615

cheers
-- 
Jean

Re: Fonts problem

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jun 1, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:

> Yes, there has been an interesting piece of information on this point:
>
> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/38615
>

Thanks, that was a very interesting read! Personally, if it weren't  
for the really bad tex installation, I would favor gentoo over most  
other linux distros I have tried (the new SUSE 10.1 is a disaster,  
IMHO), so this sounds really exciting. I sure hope they'll figure out  
a way to compile binaries for ppc, which is not one of the default  
architectures for TeXLive.

Best

Thomas

Re: Fonts problem

[Hans Hagen]

Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> On Jun 1, 2006, at 11:15 AM, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
>
>   
>> Yes, there has been an interesting piece of information on this point:
>>
>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/38615
>>
>>     
>
> Thanks, that was a very interesting read! Personally, if it weren't  
> for the really bad tex installation, I would favor gentoo over most  
> other linux distros I have tried (the new SUSE 10.1 is a disaster,  
>   
hm, i could install 10.1 ok here (but i never take tex's from linux 
distributions; one can always download tex live, so i actually wonder 
why there are derived tex distributions in linxu anyway)

Hans


-----------------------------------------------------------------
                                          Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
     tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
                                             | www.pragma-pod.nl
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Re: Fonts problem

[Jean Magnan de Bornier]

Le 01 juin à 13:44:33 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> écrit notamment:


[...]


>>>
>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/38615
>>>
>>>     
>>
>> Thanks, that was a very interesting read! Personally, if it weren't  
>> for the really bad tex installation, I would favor gentoo over most  
>> other linux distros I have tried (the new SUSE 10.1 is a disaster,  
>>   
> hm, i could install 10.1 ok here (but i never take tex's from linux 
> distributions; one can always download tex live, so i actually wonder 
> why there are derived tex distributions in linxu anyway)

Does this mean you would recommend TeXLive as a basis for ConTeXt (and if
so, how)?
 
-- 
jean

Re: Fonts problem

[Hans Hagen]

Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
> Le 01 juin � 13:44:33 Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> �crit notamment:
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>   
>>>> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/38615
>>>>
>>>>     
>>>>         
>>> Thanks, that was a very interesting read! Personally, if it weren't  
>>> for the really bad tex installation, I would favor gentoo over most  
>>> other linux distros I have tried (the new SUSE 10.1 is a disaster,  
>>>   
>>>       
>> hm, i could install 10.1 ok here (but i never take tex's from linux 
>> distributions; one can always download tex live, so i actually wonder 
>> why there are derived tex distributions in linxu anyway)
>>     
>
> Does this mean you would recommend TeXLive as a basis for ConTeXt (and if
> so, how)?
>  
>   
well, on linux, more as a replacement for tetex since it has most of 
tetex, is maintained, is supposed to be cross platform etc

and one can always unzip the latest context zip in the local tree

Hans

-- 

-----------------------------------------------------------------
                                          Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
              Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
     tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
                                             | www.pragma-pod.nl
-----------------------------------------------------------------

_______________________________________________
ntg-context mailing list
ntg-context@ntg.nl
http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context

Re: Fonts problem

[gnwiii]

On 6/1/06, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> > Thanks, that was a very interesting read! Personally, if it weren't
> > for the really bad tex installation, I would favor gentoo over most
> > other linux distros I have tried (the new SUSE 10.1 is a disaster,
> >
> hm, i could install 10.1 ok here (but i never take tex's from linux
> distributions; one can always download tex live, so i actually wonder
> why there are derived tex distributions in linxu anyway)

Many packages need TeX for their documentation.  For that you want a
compact, stable, very robust TeX package with support for many
languages.  Red Hat uses teTeX (with
Japanese support, e.g., ptex added).   Distros will want all the
libraries dynamically linked to save space and so that security
updates to thinks like libpng and libtiff don't require new TeX
binaries.  Distros will want to use the Type1 fonts from the system
for space and because they have added glyphs for more languages.

-- 
George N. White III <aa056@chebucto.ns.ca>
Head of St. Margarets Bay, Nova Scotia

Re: Fonts problem

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Jun 1, 2006, at 3:16 PM, gnwiii@gmail.com wrote:

> On 6/1/06, Hans Hagen <pragma@wxs.nl> wrote:
>> Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, that was a very interesting read! Personally, if it weren't
>>> for the really bad tex installation, I would favor gentoo over most
>>> other linux distros I have tried (the new SUSE 10.1 is a disaster,
>>>
>> hm, i could install 10.1 ok here (but i never take tex's from linux
>> distributions; one can always download tex live, so i actually wonder
>> why there are derived tex distributions in linxu anyway)

Well, just to clarify my somewhat sweeping remark: the troubles I had  
with TeX on SUSE 10.1 were relatively trivial (there was this old  
cont-usr.tex  that prevented format generation), and in many  
respects, I like it quite a lot. It's just that for a long time,  
every single beta had difficulties with online updates and online  
installation sources, and this has not been solved for the final  
release, it has even become somewhat worse. There's quite a lot of  
whining on the mailing lists and in the forums, and even some of the  
developers call this is an "intermediate release," which, I guess, is  
marketing speech for "banana ware..."

Good night!

Thomas