From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/39876 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Henning Hraban Ramm Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: first steps with XeTeX Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:59:17 +0200 Message-ID: References: <6faad9f00804051935g3b292bd3g4d17f7f00cd5080f@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1207476044 23842 80.91.229.12 (6 Apr 2008 10:00:44 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 6 Apr 2008 10:00:44 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Apr 06 12:01:17 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1JiRga-0006BJ-Dm for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 06 Apr 2008 12:01:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8D53B1FC82; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 12:00:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08337-05-3; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:59:58 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 75F701FC61; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:59:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 586811FC61 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:59:53 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 08337-05 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:59:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lvps87-230-27-118.dedicated.hosteurope.de (fiee.net [87.230.27.118]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 896D11FC07 for ; Sun, 6 Apr 2008 11:59:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: (qmail 20210 invoked from network); 6 Apr 2008 11:59:18 +0200 Original-Received: from 43-3.0-85.cust.bluewin.ch (HELO ?10.128.9.3?) (85.0.3.43) by fiee.net with (AES128-SHA encrypted) SMTP; 6 Apr 2008 11:59:18 +0200 In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00804051935g3b292bd3g4d17f7f00cd5080f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:39876 Archived-At: Am 2008-04-06 um 04:35 schrieb Mojca Miklavec: > On Sat, Apr 5, 2008 at 11:36 PM, Henning Hraban Ramm wrote: >> Since I need to typeset some names with characters outside of ec >> encoding, I'm just checking out XeTeX. >> >> - first threshold: >> If you have \setupoutput[pdftex] in cont-sys.tex, it doesn't >> work. ;-) >> (Complains "you should use pdftex binaries".) > > Since texmfstart era, pdf is the default output format anyway, so you > really need to try hard to produce dvi. Simply remove > \setupoutput[pdftex] (why do you need it there?) Seems I don't need it - I just don't change my cont-sys.tex as long as I don't run into trouble. Since I use ConTeXt since 1999 now, there may be some unneeded settings. ;-) But in that days (at least before XeTeX/luaTeX) it wasn't so easy to find a working configuration. >> - second threshold: >> Adapt your typescripts. Since I use TeX Gyre anyway, that was no >> problem. (Is there still no complete type-gyr.tex in the >> distribution? I couldn't find it.) > > TeX Gyre typescripts are loaded by default when you use XeTeX or > LuaTeX. See type-otf.tex > >> - third threshold (standing there): >> XeTeX can't read tagged PDFs. For I typeset proceedings, I must >> include a lot of pages from presentation PDFs. And even if I'd call >> myself a PDF professional, I didn't find a way to delete all tags >> from a PDF. > > Did you try to convert the PDF to 1.4 (with Adobe Professional for > example)? Yes, even 1.3. Tried optimizing (that *should* delete all unnecessary cruft). It seems possible to delete tags with one of the TouchUp tools, but the PDF stays "tagged" anyway. > Else you need to ask on the XeTeX mailing list. (But indeed: why not > trying out LuaTeX?) I'm too lazy to recompile my binaries all the time; my old Mac is rather slow... >> Tomorrow I'll try to use an additional PostScript font - is that >> even >> possible? Otherwise I must convert it to OpenType. > > It is, but which OS and what kind of PostScript font are you using? > Mac type of PostScript fonts doesn't work (or better: it only works > with xdv2pdf, which isn't supported in ConTeXt any more). You can use > the "windows type" Type1 fonts (i.e. just the normal .pfb files). That > should work on any system, but on Mac you need to reference it by > filename. Font name won't work. Ok, thanks. I guess I could have found out on my own, but was too tired yesterday... I knew that resource fork fonts don't work. But I installed all necessary fonts for pdfTeX anyway. Lots of them, back in 2004/2005, see my typescripts collection: http://www.fiee.net/texnique/?menu=0-1-4&lang=en BTW: I'd love to come to the gathering in Slovenija, but I must typeset my main project (a monthly city magazine) at that time. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________