From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/56914 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Victor Eijkhout Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: suggestions for context documentation Date: Tue, 9 Mar 2010 07:25:39 -0600 Message-ID: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v936) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0915530621==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1268206750 24770 80.91.229.12 (10 Mar 2010 07:39:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 07:39:10 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Mar 10 08:39:06 2010 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1NpGVW-0000YN-0c for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:39:06 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 285A9C9C38; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:39:05 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 53Bg1YXWdWn5; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:39:01 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4731CC9C8A; Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:38:58 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2850AC9D10 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:25:49 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id CIyOiJA3RWBF for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:25:44 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com (hrndva-omtalb.mail.rr.com [71.74.56.122]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 219F6C9D09 for ; Tue, 9 Mar 2010 14:25:43 +0100 (CET) X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Ea6VjefEpw8A:10 a=YBselXmOfLLc6O2ECP0A:9 a=WsMpUEXhbBAp0o534_oBADyHuToA:4 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=2dfJ0jmWW63vUWmbbTkA:9 a=PIdZ0tmu7Yid5IjiVz_WtFjddTgA:4 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Originating-IP: 70.112.78.156 Original-Received: from [70.112.78.156] ([70.112.78.156:57042] helo=[192.168.1.100]) by hrndva-oedge04.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.2.39 r()) with ESMTP id D9/16-20938-45C469B4; Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:25:40 +0000 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.936) X-Mailman-Approved-At: Wed, 10 Mar 2010 08:38:57 +0100 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:56914 --===============0915530621== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-22--76352995 --Apple-Mail-22--76352995 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > \startitem Even an old manual can quite well describe > functionality as much didn't change. It's only with \MKIV\ that > some compatibility is dropped and only for obscure features. Of > course I could trick users by regenerating a manual with a newer > date. I often use the excellent book \quote {\TEX\ by Topic} which > is already quite old and does not cover \ETEX, \PDFTEX, \LUATEX\ > or whatever but what is told in it is still true. I never look at > it thinking it being old. \stopitem Hans, thanks for the compliments. Let me point out that the source of TeX by Topic is available under the Gnu Public Documentation License, so anyone should feel free to add modern TeX additions to it. Personally I feel that the eTeX & pdTeX additions are mature enough that they could be added, of course with suitable markers to indicate their non-standardness. I don't have the time for this, but I'd welcome a collaboration with anyone that wants to invest the time. Victor. --Apple-Mail-22--76352995 Content-Type: text/html; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit 
\startitem Even an old manual can quite well describe
functionality as much didn't change. It's only with \MKIV\ that
some compatibility is dropped and only for obscure features. Of
course I could trick users by regenerating a manual with a newer
date. I often use the excellent book \quote {\TEX\ by Topic} which
is already quite old and does not cover \ETEX, \PDFTEX, \LUATEX\
or whatever but what is told in it is still true. I never look at
it thinking it being old. \stopitem

Hans,

thanks for the compliments.

Let me point out that the source of TeX by Topic is available under the Gnu Public Documentation License, so anyone should feel free to add modern TeX additions to it. Personally I feel that the eTeX & pdTeX additions are mature enough that they could be added, of course with suitable markers to indicate their non-standardness. I don't have the time for this, but I'd welcome a collaboration with anyone that wants to invest the time.

Victor.

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