[***SPAM***] Widows: penalty without efffect (ConTeXt iv)

[***SPAM***] Widows: penalty without efffect (ConTeXt iv)

[d_jan]

Dear List,

I ran into trouble with the widow/orphan-control in context.
I searched the mailinglist, and saw that there were some other threads 
on the topic bevore, but as far as I am concerned what was suggested 
there did not work for me when I tried it.

I run context iv using the version which comes with TexLive 2011.

First trail was to include \widowpenalty=9000 and \clubpenalty=9000 at 
the start of the document, before \starttext (cause I do my setups, and 
definitions there)
As this did not work I tried to put them after \starttext. As well I 
lowered \brokenpenalty. But both approaches, which were suggested in 
previous Posts on the ntg-context list failed to show an effect in my case.

Is there anything I could do to prevent the widow lines?

PS.: As I may be doing any noobish errors, here an overview of the 
documents structure and the placement of the penalty-commands
_________________________________

\widowpenalty=9000
\clubpenalty=9000

\definepapersize[janssize][width=190mm, height=245mm]

\setuppapersize[janssize][A4] %we can use something like [A5][A4], which 
is a a5 Page sized Document printed on a A4 sheet


\setuplayout[grid=yes, marking=on, location=middle, backspace=30mm, 
width=110mm]%former: location=doublesided


\starttext

\startstandardmakeup
\stopstandardmakeup

\startfrontmatter
%TOC...
\stopfrontmatter

\startbodymatter %the main stuff goes here
% Loads of text
\stopbodymatter

\startappendices %appendices go here
\stopappendices

\stoptext




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Re: [***SPAM***] Widows: penalty without efffect (ConTeXt iv)

[Stefan Müller]

Hi,

did you see [1]? You have to do something like

\starttext
\clubpenalty=10000
\widowpenalty=10000

My text that should not contain any widow or orphan lines.
\stoptext

If that does not work for you, please provide a minimal example.

HTH,
Stefan


[1] 
http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20111211.162442.4f689e7b.en.html

On 09.08.2012 11:36, d_jan wrote:
> Dear List,
>
> I ran into trouble with the widow/orphan-control in context.
> I searched the mailinglist, and saw that there were some other threads
> on the topic bevore, but as far as I am concerned what was suggested
> there did not work for me when I tried it.
>
> I run context iv using the version which comes with TexLive 2011.
>
> First trail was to include \widowpenalty=9000 and \clubpenalty=9000 at
> the start of the document, before \starttext (cause I do my setups, and
> definitions there)
> As this did not work I tried to put them after \starttext. As well I
> lowered \brokenpenalty. But both approaches, which were suggested in
> previous Posts on the ntg-context list failed to show an effect in my case.
>
> Is there anything I could do to prevent the widow lines?
>
> PS.: As I may be doing any noobish errors, here an overview of the
> documents structure and the placement of the penalty-commands
> _________________________________
>
> \widowpenalty=9000
> \clubpenalty=9000
>
> \definepapersize[janssize][width=190mm, height=245mm]
>
> \setuppapersize[janssize][A4] %we can use something like [A5][A4], which
> is a a5 Page sized Document printed on a A4 sheet
>
>
> \setuplayout[grid=yes, marking=on, location=middle, backspace=30mm,
> width=110mm]%former: location=doublesided
>
>
> \starttext
>
> \startstandardmakeup
> \stopstandardmakeup
>
> \startfrontmatter
> %TOC...
> \stopfrontmatter
>
> \startbodymatter %the main stuff goes here
> % Loads of text
> \stopbodymatter
>
> \startappendices %appendices go here
> \stopappendices
>
> \stoptext
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Re: [***SPAM***] Widows: penalty without efffect (ConTeXt iv)

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 09.08.2012 um 11:36 schrieb d_jan <d_jan@ymail.com>:

> Dear List,
> 
> I ran into trouble with the widow/orphan-control in context.
> I searched the mailinglist, and saw that there were some other threads on the topic bevore, but as far as I am concerned what was suggested there did not work for me when I tried it.
> 
> I run context iv using the version which comes with TexLive 2011.
> 
> First trail was to include \widowpenalty=9000 and \clubpenalty=9000 at the start of the document, before \starttext (cause I do my setups, and definitions there)
> As this did not work I tried to put them after \starttext. As well I lowered \brokenpenalty. But both approaches, which were suggested in previous Posts on the ntg-context list failed to show an effect in my case.
> 
> Is there anything I could do to prevent the widow lines?

You can change the default penalties with \setuplayout[setups=…], the default setting is \setuplayout[setups=*default] but you can change this to “setups=*strict”  which should help. It’s also possible to create your own penalties setup, e.g.

\startsetups mypenalties

  \widowpenalty = 9000
  \clubpenalty  = 9000

\stopsetups

\setuplayout[setups=mypenalties]

\starttext
…
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: [***SPAM***] Widows: penalty without efffect (ConTeXt iv)

[d_jan]

Hi Stephan,
Thanks for your help. Seemingly I missed that in my search on the list.

\starttext
\clubpenalty=10000
\widowpenalty=10000
\brokenpenalty=10000
[...]

seems to do the job.

Reards,
  Jan

On 09.08.2012 14:25, Stefan Müller wrote:
> Hi,
>
> did you see [1]? You have to do something like
>
> \starttext
> \clubpenalty=10000
> \widowpenalty=10000
>
> My text that should not contain any widow or orphan lines.
> \stoptext
>
> If that does not work for you, please provide a minimal example.
>
> HTH,
> Stefan
>
>
> [1] 
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/20111211.162442.4f689e7b.en.html
>
> On 09.08.2012 11:36, d_jan wrote:
>> Dear List,
>>
>> I ran into trouble with the widow/orphan-control in context.
>> I searched the mailinglist, and saw that there were some other threads
>> on the topic bevore, but as far as I am concerned what was suggested
>> there did not work for me when I tried it.
>>
>> I run context iv using the version which comes with TexLive 2011.
>>
>> First trail was to include \widowpenalty=9000 and \clubpenalty=9000 at
>> the start of the document, before \starttext (cause I do my setups, and
>> definitions there)
>> As this did not work I tried to put them after \starttext. As well I
>> lowered \brokenpenalty. But both approaches, which were suggested in
>> previous Posts on the ntg-context list failed to show an effect in my 
>> case.
>>
>> Is there anything I could do to prevent the widow lines?
>>
>> PS.: As I may be doing any noobish errors, here an overview of the
>> documents structure and the placement of the penalty-commands
>> _________________________________
>>
>> \widowpenalty=9000
>> \clubpenalty=9000
>>
>> \definepapersize[janssize][width=190mm, height=245mm]
>>
>> \setuppapersize[janssize][A4] %we can use something like [A5][A4], which
>> is a a5 Page sized Document printed on a A4 sheet
>>
>>
>> \setuplayout[grid=yes, marking=on, location=middle, backspace=30mm,
>> width=110mm]%former: location=doublesided
>>
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \startstandardmakeup
>> \stopstandardmakeup
>>
>> \startfrontmatter
>> %TOC...
>> \stopfrontmatter
>>
>> \startbodymatter %the main stuff goes here
>> % Loads of text
>> \stopbodymatter
>>
>> \startappendices %appendices go here
>> \stopappendices
>>
>> \stoptext

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