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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
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@ 2008-08-31 17:09 ` Michael Green
  2008-08-31 21:17   ` Alan Bowen
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From: Michael Green @ 2008-08-31 17:09 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Aug 30, 2008, Alan Bowen wrote:

> What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for the
> wiki. The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for
> installing the minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real
> knowledge of unix (such as myself) can follow easily. (There are a
> number of people scattered around the world who help me in producing
> various publications; and since they too are not unix savvy, I need
> such instructions if we are to keep our installations functioning and
> up to date.)
>
> Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder and
> the user can run
> \starttext
> Hello world!
> \stoptext
> which is where the wiki (Installation>section 1.2) currently leaves
> off, there still remain a few tasks.
>
> Specifically,
>
> (a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf
> directory
>
> (b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in /
> Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal
>
> (c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its ConTeXt
> source. Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
> 	Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
> Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization technology
> by Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier
> TeX distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and
> XeTeX. In modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls
> pdfetex (even if using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the
> technology is available for such typesetting. To use the technology,
> add the flag --synctex=1
>
> Any advice on how to do (a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.
>
> Alan
>
>

I installed ConTeXt Minimals in my home directory's Applications  
folder (not the applications folder for the system as a whole). I'm  
reluctant to write in because my understanding of what I'm doing is  
shallow and I haven't used my solution beyond a few simple tests.

With that said, adding the following three lines to .bash_profile  
seems to work for me.

source ~/Applications/context/tex/setuptex ~/Applications/context/tex
TEXMFHOME=$HOME/Library/texmf
TEXMF={$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!! 
$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}

Here is how I understand what I did.

(A) I think that the second and third lines (TEXMFHOME ... and  
TEXMF ...) handle issue (a).

I copied them from a message I read on the developer list.

http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/ 
20080607.102038.6212fc3c.en.html

I should add that the author, Oliver Buerschaper wrote to complain  
that additions to the personal texmf tree were not automatically  
recognized. He had to run luatools --generate again after changing  
something. I have no idea if this has been fixed since June, when he  
wrote his message. I assume it has, but haven't tested it.

(B) I think that the first line (source ...) handles issue (b). It  
tells the shell to look for TeX binaries in ~/Applications/context/tex.

This is the second instruction from the Linux/Mac/BSD section of the  
wiki's installation page, modified for my particular case.

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Linux.2FMac.2FFreeBSD

Michael
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-08-31 17:09 ` Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac Michael Green
@ 2008-08-31 21:17   ` Alan Bowen
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2008-08-31 21:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thanks, Michael; this is very helpful. I will prepare a .bash_profile  
file and try it out. Where did you put your .bash_profile file?

Alan

On Aug 31, 2008, at 13;09,32 , Michael Green wrote:

> On Aug 30, 2008, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
>> What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for  
>> the
>> wiki. The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for
>> installing the minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real
>> knowledge of unix (such as myself) can follow easily. (There are a
>> number of people scattered around the world who help me in producing
>> various publications; and since they too are not unix savvy, I need
>> such instructions if we are to keep our installations functioning and
>> up to date.)
>>
>> Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder  
>> and
>> the user can run
>> \starttext
>> Hello world!
>> \stoptext
>> which is where the wiki (Installation>section 1.2) currently leaves
>> off, there still remain a few tasks.
>>
>> Specifically,
>>
>> (a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf
>> directory
>>
>> (b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in /
>> Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal
>>
>> (c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its ConTeXt
>> source. Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
>> 	Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
>> Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization technology
>> by Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier
>> TeX distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and
>> XeTeX. In modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls
>> pdfetex (even if using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the
>> technology is available for such typesetting. To use the technology,
>> add the flag --synctex=1
>>
>> Any advice on how to do (a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.
>>
>> Alan
>>
>>
>
> I installed ConTeXt Minimals in my home directory's Applications
> folder (not the applications folder for the system as a whole). I'm
> reluctant to write in because my understanding of what I'm doing is
> shallow and I haven't used my solution beyond a few simple tests.
>
> With that said, adding the following three lines to .bash_profile
> seems to work for me.
>
> source ~/Applications/context/tex/setuptex ~/Applications/context/tex
> TEXMFHOME=$HOME/Library/texmf
> TEXMF={$TEXMFHOME,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!
> $TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}
>
> Here is how I understand what I did.
>
> (A) I think that the second and third lines (TEXMFHOME ... and
> TEXMF ...) handle issue (a).
>
> I copied them from a message I read on the developer list.
>
> http://archive.contextgarden.net/message/
> 20080607.102038.6212fc3c.en.html
>
> I should add that the author, Oliver Buerschaper wrote to complain
> that additions to the personal texmf tree were not automatically
> recognized. He had to run luatools --generate again after changing
> something. I have no idea if this has been fixed since June, when he
> wrote his message. I assume it has, but haven't tested it.
>
> (B) I think that the first line (source ...) handles issue (b). It
> tells the shell to look for TeX binaries in ~/Applications/context/ 
> tex.
>
> This is the second instruction from the Linux/Mac/BSD section of the
> wiki's installation page, modified for my particular case.
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt_Minimals#Linux.2FMac.2FFreeBSD
>
> Michael
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-02 19:34                   ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-03 16:22                     ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-09-03 16:22 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 9:34 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
> On Sep 2, 2008, at 14;54,40 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> setuptex should already be executable and no TeX file (the best way to
>> do the change would be to use "cp setuptex mysetuptex" and then modify
>> the latter), but if you want to make sure ... do
>>    chmod a+x mysetuptex (or however your file is called)
>> "ls -l" should show you the status of file (you should be able to see
>> if the file is executable).
>
> Thanks. What confused me was that on my Mac the icon for the setuptex
> changed after I edited it.
>
> Anyway, the revised setuptex works perfectly with the
> ConTeXtMinimals.engine. Thank you again.
>
> But the question now is, which solution do you recommend? As a user,
> my preference is for the one that leaves setuptex alone and focuses on
> the engines that TeXShop uses, since it makes switching form MKII to
> MKIV very easy to do. (I would add that, as things stand now, I also
> have easy access to my Texlive 2007 setup.) However, I am much more
> interested in keeping my setup in line with development path that you,
> Hans, and the others set for the minimals, since, as I gather, they
> are the future of ConTeXt.

If *.engine works for you, feel free to use that one. You don't need
to bother about setuptex, really, unless you need to use TeX in bash.
And TeXWorks might be the new future of TeXShop anyway ...

Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-02 18:54                 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-02 19:34                   ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-03 16:22                     ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2008-09-02 19:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sep 2, 2008, at 14;54,40 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>>
>> I have also inserted the lines
>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>> and
>> export
>> TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
>> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>> into a file formed by copying the content of setuptex.
>> But before I can test this, assuming that so far is so good, I need  
>> to turn
>> my setuptex (which is natively a .tex file) into unix executable.  
>> How do I
>> do this?
>
> A TeX file???

I did confess ignorance at the outset, didn’t I? 8-)

> setuptex should already be executable and no TeX file (the best way to
> do the change would be to use "cp setuptex mysetuptex" and then modify
> the latter), but if you want to make sure ... do
>    chmod a+x mysetuptex (or however your file is called)
> "ls -l" should show you the status of file (you should be able to see
> if the file is executable).

Thanks. What confused me was that on my Mac the icon for the setuptex  
changed after I edited it.

Anyway, the revised setuptex works perfectly with the  
ConTeXtMinimals.engine. Thank you again.

But the question now is, which solution do you recommend? As a user,  
my preference is for the one that leaves setuptex alone and focuses on  
the engines that TeXShop uses, since it makes switching form MKII to  
MKIV very easy to do. (I would add that, as things stand now, I also  
have easy access to my Texlive 2007 setup.) However, I am much more  
interested in keeping my setup in line with development path that you,  
Hans, and the others set for the minimals, since, as I gather, they  
are the future of ConTeXt.

Very best, Alan
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-02 18:42               ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-02 18:54                 ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-02 19:34                   ` Alan Bowen
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 28+ messages in thread
From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-09-02 18:54 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
> I have also inserted the lines
> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
> and
> export
> TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
> into a file formed by copying the content of setuptex.
> But before I can test this, assuming that so far is so good, I need to turn
> my setuptex (which is natively a .tex file) into unix executable. How do I
> do this?

A TeX file???

setuptex should already be executable and no TeX file (the best way to
do the change would be to use "cp setuptex mysetuptex" and then modify
the latter), but if you want to make sure ... do
    chmod a+x mysetuptex (or however your file is called)
"ls -l" should show you the status of file (you should be able to see
if the file is executable).

Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 21:38             ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 22:13               ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-02 18:42               ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-02 18:54                 ` Mojca Miklavec
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On Sep 1, 2008, at 17;38,50 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be  
>>>> nice
>>>> if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would
>>>> like
>>>> to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.
>>>>
>>>> I have modified the texmf.cnf in
>>>> ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
>>>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>>>> export
>>>> TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
>>>> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>>>> but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
>>>
>>> I probably told you wrong, but:
>>> 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be
>>> equal
>>> 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,
>>> but create
>>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>> instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
>>> 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that  
>>> environmental
>>> variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
>>> a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of
>>> setuptex)
>>> b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
>>> from texmf.cnf will be used
>>> - maybe you need to run "mktexlsr" or "luatools --generate"
>>>>
>>
>> OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.
>>
>> I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/
>> texmf.cnf
>> where texmf.cnf now has
>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>> export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
>
> (hopefully the line continues ...)
>
> The lines you have written here belong to "setuptex", not to
> texmf.cnf. The syntax for setuptex is slightly different.
>
> HOMETEXMF     = ~/Library/texmf
> # single line
> TEXMF = {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!! 
> $TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}
>
> But try putting™
>   export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
> # single line
>   export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>
> into setuptex (replace the old variables). The problem is that if you
> adapt texmf.cnf only, you still override those settings with setuptex.

I hope I have understood this properly.  I now have
HOMETEXMF     = ~/Library/texmf
TEXMF = {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!
in my /ConteXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/texmf.cnf.

I have also inserted the lines
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
and
export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'

into a file formed by copying the content of setuptex.

But before I can test this, assuming that so far is so good, I need to  
turn my setuptex (which is natively a .tex file) into unix executable.  
How do I do this?

Alan

> There is one thing that you could try (I never use TeXShop, but
> there's a change that it works):
>
>
> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-pdfTeX.engine
>
> #!/bin/bash
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
> texexec "$1"
>
> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine
>
> #!/bin/bash
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
> export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
> context "$1"
>
> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine
>
> #!/bin/bash
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
> texexec --xtx "$1"
>
> (sorry for two different proposals - I should probably only send you a
> single one)
>
> Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-02  8:04                     ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-02 16:18                       ` Alan Bowen
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On Sep 2, 2008, at 04;04,31 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>>
>> With this change in all the engines---thanks to Aditya
>> too---ConTeXt-pdftex.engine and ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine now work as  
>> they should
>> (which is great!)
>> But running ConTeXt-luatex.engine gets
>> MtxRun | skipping configuration for
>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c from
>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/ 
>> 3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
>> 3beab8509a03fa29e95f93134a943a7f
>> MtxRun | loading configuration for
>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c from
>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/ 
>> 3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
>> d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753
>> MtxRun | error, no format found with name: cont-en
>> MtxRun | total runtime: 0.010
>
> Try if this helps:
>
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
> export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
> context --make
>
> I have no idea why the formats haven't been built previously though
> (or maybe they were flying to some other location).
>
> Mojca

My ConTeXt-luatex.engine now has
!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context "$1"

and in Terminal I have run
context --make

When I try to typeset “Hello world!”, absolutely nothing happens—the  
TeXShop console window opens and stays blank.

Have I misunderstood you?

Alan

PS  export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin: 
$PATH
makes no difference.
The other engines work well. A.






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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 22:50                   ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 23:03                     ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-02  8:04                     ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-02 16:18                       ` Alan Bowen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-09-02  8:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:50 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>
> With this change in all the engines---thanks to Aditya
> too---ConTeXt-pdftex.engine and ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine now work as they should
> (which is great!)
> But running ConTeXt-luatex.engine gets
> MtxRun | skipping configuration for
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c from
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/3beab8509a03fa29e95f93134a943a7f
> MtxRun | loading configuration for
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c from
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753
> MtxRun | error, no format found with name: cont-en
> MtxRun | total runtime: 0.010

Try if this helps:

export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context --make

I have no idea why the formats haven't been built previously though
(or maybe they were flying to some other location).

Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 22:50                   ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 23:03                     ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-02  8:04                     ` Mojca Miklavec
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Mocja---Sorry! I should have added that with the ConTeXt-pdftex.engine  
and minimals now see my personal texmf too. So it is possible to get  
the desired outcome without changing setuptex.

Still, I will test out your first proposal tomorrow and report.

Cheers x 3. And many thanks.

Alan
On Sep 1, 2008, at 18;50,19 , Alan Bowen wrote:

>
> On Sep 1, 2008, at 18;22,17 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>>> Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for
>>> tomorrow.
>>>
>>> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine
>>>
>>> #!/bin/bash
>>> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
>>> export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
>>> context "$1"
>>>
>>> Done. No joy. ConTeXt complains:
>>> /Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine:  
>>> line 4:
>>> context: command not found
>>
>> Oh, sorry again.
>>   export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin: 
>> $PATH
>
> With this change in all the engines---thanks to Aditya too---ConTeXt- 
> pdftex.engine and ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine now work as they should  
> (which is great!)
> But running ConTeXt-luatex.engine gets
> MtxRun | skipping configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/ 
> tex/texmf-local/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf- 
> cache/luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
> 3beab8509a03fa29e95f93134a943a7f
> MtxRun | loading configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
> texmf/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/ 
> luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
> d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753
> MtxRun | error, no format found with name: cont-en
> MtxRun | total runtime: 0.010
>
>> But then: you have an intel processor, right? If not, change that  
>> line
>> accordingly. (Check if you have binaries in that folder.)
>
> I have an Intel processor and there is a bin folder in ./ 
> Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/
>
>> Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 22:22                 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-01 22:50                   ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 23:03                     ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-02  8:04                     ` Mojca Miklavec
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On Sep 1, 2008, at 18;22,17 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>> Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for
>> tomorrow.
>>
>> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine
>>
>> #!/bin/bash
>> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
>> export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
>> context "$1"
>>
>> Done. No joy. ConTeXt complains:
>> /Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine:  
>> line 4:
>> context: command not found
>
> Oh, sorry again.
>   export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin: 
> $PATH

With this change in all the engines---thanks to Aditya too---ConTeXt- 
pdftex.engine and ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine now work as they should (which  
is great!)
But running ConTeXt-luatex.engine gets
MtxRun | skipping configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
texmf-local/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/ 
luatex-cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
3beab8509a03fa29e95f93134a943a7f
MtxRun | loading configuration for /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
texmf/web2c from /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache/luatex- 
cache/context/3fc847143b06f084e10e73c8fbdf4ae2/trees/ 
d9ef00871d7b11751a275cffd8a85753
MtxRun | error, no format found with name: cont-en
MtxRun | total runtime: 0.010

> But then: you have an intel processor, right? If not, change that line
> accordingly. (Check if you have binaries in that folder.)

I have an Intel processor and there is a bin folder in ./Applications/ 
ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/

> Mojca

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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 22:13               ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 22:22                 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-01 22:24                 ` Aditya Mahajan
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Alan Bowen wrote:

> Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for 
> tomorrow.
>
> On Sep 1, 2008, at 17;38,50 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
>>>>> if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would
>>>>> like
>>>>> to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have modified the texmf.cnf in
>>>>> ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
>>>>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>>>>> export
>>>>> TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
>>>>> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>>>>> but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
>>>> 
>>>> I probably told you wrong, but:
>>>> 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be
>>>> equal
>>>> 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,
>>>> but create
>>>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>>> instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
>>>> 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
>>>> variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
>>>> a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of
>>>> setuptex)
>>>> b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
>>>> from texmf.cnf will be used
>>>> - maybe you need to run "mktexlsr" or "luatools --generate"
>>>>> 
>>> 
>>> OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.
>>> 
>>> I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/
>>> texmf.cnf
>>> where texmf.cnf now has
>>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>>> export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
>> 
>> (hopefully the line continues ...)
>> 
>> The lines you have written here belong to "setuptex", not to
>> texmf.cnf. The syntax for setuptex is slightly different.
>> 
>> HOMETEXMF     = ~/Library/texmf
>> # single line
>> TEXMF = 
>> {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}
>> 
>> But try putting
>>  export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>> # single line
>>  export 
>> TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>> 
>> into setuptex (replace the old variables). The problem is that if you
>> adapt texmf.cnf only, you still override those settings with setuptex.
>> 
>> There is one thing that you could try (I never use TeXShop, but
>> there's a change that it works):
>> 
>> 
>> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-pdfTeX.engine
>> 
>> #!/bin/bash
>> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
>> texexec "$1"

Shouldn't that be

export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH

(Note the /bin at the end of the path, and same for all commands below).

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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 21:43               ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 22:24                 ` Andrea Valle
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>  Many thanks for your patience,
> Mocja!
(and three)

Yes, Mojca is really patient...
:)

-a-

>

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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 22:13               ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 22:22                 ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 22:50                   ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 22:24                 ` Aditya Mahajan
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On Tue, Sep 2, 2008 at 12:13 AM, Alan Bowen wrote:
> Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for
> tomorrow.
>
> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine
>
> #!/bin/bash
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
> export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
> context "$1"
>
> Done. No joy. ConTeXt complains:
> /Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine: line 4:
> context: command not found

Oh, sorry again.
   export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH

But then: you have an intel processor, right? If not, change that line
accordingly. (Check if you have binaries in that folder.)

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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 21:38             ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-01 22:13               ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 22:22                 ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 22:24                 ` Aditya Mahajan
  2008-09-02 18:42               ` Alan Bowen
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Mocja---I will start with the second proposal and save the first for  
tomorrow.

On Sep 1, 2008, at 17;38,50 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>>>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>>
>>>> For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be  
>>>> nice
>>>> if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would
>>>> like
>>>> to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.
>>>>
>>>> I have modified the texmf.cnf in
>>>> ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
>>>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>>>> export
>>>> TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
>>>> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>>>> but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
>>>
>>> I probably told you wrong, but:
>>> 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be
>>> equal
>>> 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,
>>> but create
>>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>>> instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
>>> 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that  
>>> environmental
>>> variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
>>> a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of
>>> setuptex)
>>> b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
>>> from texmf.cnf will be used
>>> - maybe you need to run "mktexlsr" or "luatools --generate"
>>>>
>>
>> OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.
>>
>> I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/
>> texmf.cnf
>> where texmf.cnf now has
>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>> export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
>
> (hopefully the line continues ...)
>
> The lines you have written here belong to "setuptex", not to
> texmf.cnf. The syntax for setuptex is slightly different.
>
> HOMETEXMF     = ~/Library/texmf
> # single line
> TEXMF = {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!! 
> $TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}
>
> But try putting
>   export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
> # single line
>   export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>
> into setuptex (replace the old variables). The problem is that if you
> adapt texmf.cnf only, you still override those settings with setuptex.
>
> There is one thing that you could try (I never use TeXShop, but
> there's a change that it works):
>
>
> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-pdfTeX.engine
>
> #!/bin/bash
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
> texexec "$1"

Done. The “Hello world” file processes but using my texlive 2007  
distribution.
TeXExec | processing document 'hello.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file hello.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 780
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.40.3 (Web2C 7.5.6)
  %&-line parsing enabled.
  (/usr/local/texlive/2007/texmf/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./hello.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.04 10:10 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.31  int: english/ 
english

> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine
>
> #!/bin/bash
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
> export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
> context "$1"

Done. No joy. ConTeXt complains:
/Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine: line  
4: context: command not found

> ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine
>
> #!/bin/bash
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
> texexec --xtx "$1"

Done. I t works, but
TeXExec | processing document 'hello.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file hello.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 403
TeXExec | tex engine: xetex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is XeTeXk, Version 3.141592-2.2-0.996 (Web2C 7.5.6)
  %&-line parsing enabled.
entering extended mode
(./hello.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2007.01.12 15:56 MKII  fmt: 2007.5.18  int: english/ 
english

seems odd. I do not use XeTeX but I am guessing that this version is  
also in my Texlive 2007 distribution too.

I do like the idea of defining different engines for pdftex and  
luatex, since it address one of my earlier queries about switching  
between the two with the minimals.

More tomorrow.

Warm thanks. Alan

> (sorry for two different proposals - I should probably only send you a
> single one)
>
> Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 21:19             ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 21:43               ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 22:02               ` Aditya Mahajan
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> only
>   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
> does not suffice. It does on Windows, but apparently there's no way to
> figure out location of the sourced script under linux (or at least I
> don't know any).

Well, surprisingly a simple

. ~/tex/setuptex

works fine here (Linux + Zsh shell).

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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 21:19             ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-01 21:43               ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 22:24                 ` Andrea Valle
  2008-09-01 22:02               ` Aditya Mahajan
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On Sep 1, 2008, at 17;19,53 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>  
> wrote:
>
>> My ConTeXtMinimals.engine file currently has the the following lines:
>> #!/bin/bash
>> source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex /Applications/ 
>> ConTeXtMinimals/context/tex
>> texexec "$1"
>
> Remove "context" from the second argument:
>   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
> instead of
>   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context/tex

Done---and the console now reads (without complaint)
Setting "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex" as TEXROOT.
as desired when typesetting begins. Many thanks for your patience,  
Mocja!

> <text deleted>

Alan

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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 20:43           ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 21:38             ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 22:13               ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-02 18:42               ` Alan Bowen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-09-01 21:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:43 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu> wrote:
>
> On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
>>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>>
>>> For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
>>> if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would
>>> like
>>> to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.
>>>
>>> I have modified the texmf.cnf in
>>> ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
>>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>>> export
>>> TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!
>>> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>>> but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
>>
>> I probably told you wrong, but:
>> 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be
>> equal
>> 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,
>> but create
>>  /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
>> instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
>> 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
>> variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
>>  a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of
>> setuptex)
>>  b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
>> from texmf.cnf will be used
>> - maybe you need to run "mktexlsr" or "luatools --generate"
>>>
>
> OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.
>
> I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/
> texmf.cnf
> where texmf.cnf now has
> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
> export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!

(hopefully the line continues ...)

The lines you have written here belong to "setuptex", not to
texmf.cnf. The syntax for setuptex is slightly different.

HOMETEXMF     = ~/Library/texmf
# single line
TEXMF = {$HOMETEXMF,!!$TEXMFPROJECT,!!$TEXMFFONTS,!!$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}

But try putting
   export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
# single line
   export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'

into setuptex (replace the old variables). The problem is that if you
adapt texmf.cnf only, you still override those settings with setuptex.

There is one thing that you could try (I never use TeXShop, but
there's a change that it works):


~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-pdfTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
texexec "$1"

~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-luaTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
export TEXMFCACHE=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-cache
context "$1"

~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXt-XeTeX.engine

#!/bin/bash
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel:$PATH
texexec --xtx "$1"

(sorry for two different proposals - I should probably only send you a
single one)

Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 20:18           ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 21:19             ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 21:43               ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 22:02               ` Aditya Mahajan
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-09-01 21:19 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 10:18 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu> wrote:

> My ConTeXtMinimals.engine file currently has the the following lines:
> #!/bin/bash
> source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context/tex
> texexec "$1"

Remove "context" from the second argument:
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
instead of
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context/tex

> I am puzzled that
> chmod a+x ~/Library/TeXShop/ConTeXtMinimals.engine
> gets
> chmod: /Users/alancbowen/Library/TeXShop/ConTeXtMinimals.engine: No such
> file or directory

Because you have probably created a file
   ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXtMinimals.engine
and not a file
   ~/Library/TeXShop/ConTeXtMinimals.engine
(tiny differences), so the second works.

> while
> chmod 775 ~/Library/TeXShop/Engines/ConTeXtMinimals.engine
> seems to work (at least there are no error messages).
> I am not quite sure what you mean here, but if I reduce
> ConTeXtMinimals.engine to
> source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
> I get
> The argument "/Users/alancbowen/Desktop/TeXTesting/hello.tex" is not a valid
> TEXROOT path.
> There is no file
> "/Users/alancbowen/Desktop/TeXTesting/hello.tex/texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex"
> Setting "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex" as TEXROOT instead.
> and then nothing.

Sorry - I thought that the issue has been fixed, but it hasn't. So you need
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
only
   source /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
does not suffice. It does on Windows, but apparently there's no way to
figure out location of the sourced script under linux (or at least I
don't know any).

Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 17:43         ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 20:18           ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 20:43           ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 21:38             ` Mojca Miklavec
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2008-09-01 20:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
>> if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would  
>> like
>> to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.
>>
>> I have modified the texmf.cnf in
>> ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>> export
>> TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
>> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>> but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
>
> I probably told you wrong, but:
> 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be  
> equal
> 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,  
> but create
>  /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
> instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
> 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
> variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
>  a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of  
> setuptex)
>  b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
> from texmf.cnf will be used
> - maybe you need to run "mktexlsr" or "luatools --generate"
>>

OK. One quick reply just to see if I am on track.

I have created /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/ 
texmf.cnf
where texmf.cnf now has
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
export TEXMF='{$HOMETEXMF,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!

I have run
mktexlsr
luatools --generate

And still no luck, I am sorry to say. Perhaps I have misunderstood  
your remarks about HOMETEXMF and TEXMFHOME.

Alan
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 17:43         ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-01 20:18           ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 21:19             ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 20:43           ` Alan Bowen
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From: Alan Bowen @ 2008-09-01 20:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Sep 1, 2008, at 13;43,19 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu>  
> wrote:
>> Mocja—
>> This is great. I now have access to the binaries in ConTeXtMinimals/ 
>> tex:
>> context --version
>> gives the right answer.
>> Alan
>>
>> On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>>
>> For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
>> if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would  
>> like
>> to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.
>>
>> I have modified the texmf.cnf in
>> ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
>> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
>> export
>> TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
>> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>> but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
>
> I probably told you wrong, but:
> 1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be  
> equal
> 2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/,  
> but create
>  /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
> instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
> 3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
> variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
>  a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of  
> setuptex)
>  b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
> from texmf.cnf will be used
> - maybe you need to run "mktexlsr" or "luatools --generate"

I need to think about this and learn more.

>> The opening lines of the console read:
>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex: line 83: cd:
>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context: No such file or directory
>
> Where does this "context" come from? From .engine file for TeXShop?
>
>> The argument "" is not a valid TEXROOT path.
>> There is no file "/texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex"
>> Setting "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex" as TEXROOT instead.
>> TeXExec | processing document 'c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex'
>> TeXExec | no ctx file found
>> TeXExec | tex processing method: context
>> TeXExec | TeX run 1
>> TeXExec | writing option file c_2007-10-04_Hannah.top
>> TeXExec | using randomseed 764
>> TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
>> TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
>> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9-rc1 (Web2C 7.5.7)
>> \write18 enabled.
>> (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
>> entering extended mode
>> (./c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex
>> ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.29 10:30 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.29  int: english/ 
>> english

This comes from the console window that TeXShop opens when it typesets  
a file.

>>
>
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 17:27       ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 17:43         ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 20:18           ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 20:43           ` Alan Bowen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-09-01 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mailing list for ConTeXt users

On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 7:27 PM, Alan Bowen <acbowen@princeton.edu> wrote:
> Mocja—
> This is great. I now have access to the binaries in ConTeXtMinimals/tex:
> context --version
> gives the right answer.
> Alan
>
> On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:
>
> For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
> if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would like
> to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.
>
> I have modified the texmf.cnf in
> ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/web2c with the lines
> export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
> export
> TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
> but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder

I probably told you wrong, but:
1.) you have HOMETEXMF first and then TEXMFHOME: these need to be equal
2.) unless you are following (3), don't modify the file in texmf/, but create
  /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-local/web2c/texmf.cnf
instead, else the file will be overwritten at first update
3.) even then I'm not completely sure, but I guess that environmental
variables override settings in texmf.cnf, so you either need to
  a) modify setuptex (rename it and run the renamed file instead of setuptex)
  b) only export PATH and not run setuptex at all; in that case values
from texmf.cnf will be used
- maybe you need to run "mktexlsr" or "luatools --generate"

> The opening lines of the console read:
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex: line 83: cd:
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/context: No such file or directory

Where does this "context" come from? From .engine file for TeXShop?

> The argument "" is not a valid TEXROOT path.
> There is no file "/texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex"
> Setting "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex" as TEXROOT instead.
> TeXExec | processing document 'c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex'
> TeXExec | no ctx file found
> TeXExec | tex processing method: context
> TeXExec | TeX run 1
> TeXExec | writing option file c_2007-10-04_Hannah.top
> TeXExec | using randomseed 764
> TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
> TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
> This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9-rc1 (Web2C 7.5.7)
>  \write18 enabled.
>  (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
> entering extended mode
> (./c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex
> ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.29 10:30 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.29  int: english/english

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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 16:24     ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-01 17:27       ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 17:43         ` Mojca Miklavec
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Mocja—

This is great. I now have access to the binaries in ConTeXtMinimals/tex:
context --version
gives the right answer.

Alan


On Sep 1, 2008, at 12;24,41 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
> if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would like
> to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

I have modified the texmf.cnf in ./Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/ 
texmf/web2c with the lines
export HOMETEXMF=~/Library/texmf
export TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
but ConTeXt still does not find my personal texmf folder
The opening lines of the console read:
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex: line 83: cd: /Applications/ 
ConTeXtMinimals/context: No such file or directory
The argument "" is not a valid TEXROOT path.
There is no file "/texmf/tex/plain/base/plain.tex"
Setting "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex" as TEXROOT instead.
TeXExec | processing document 'c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex'
TeXExec | no ctx file found
TeXExec | tex processing method: context
TeXExec | TeX run 1
TeXExec | writing option file c_2007-10-04_Hannah.top
TeXExec | using randomseed 764
TeXExec | tex engine: pdftex
TeXExec | tex format: cont-en
This is pdfTeX, Version 3.1415926-1.40.9-rc1 (Web2C 7.5.7)
  \write18 enabled.
  (/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-context/web2c/natural.tcx)
entering extended mode
(./c_2007-10-04_Hannah.tex

ConTeXt  ver: 2008.08.29 10:30 MKII  fmt: 2008.8.29  int: english/ 
english

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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01 16:03   ` Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01 16:24     ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 17:27       ` Alan Bowen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-09-01 16:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Mon, Sep 1, 2008 at 6:03 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
> Hi, Mocja---
> Many thanks for your reply: it is very encouraging. First things first,
> then: let's make sure I have things in the right place.
>
> The output of
> find /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals | head -n 20
> is
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/.DS_Store
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtx-update-old.lua
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtx-update.lua
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtxrun
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/texlua
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/first-setup.sh
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/status-of-update.lua
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/.DS_Store
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex.bat
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex.tmf
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/.DS_Store
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/.DS_Store
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/fonts
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/fonts/.DS_Store
> I will wait for word from you about the changes you suggest to fix (a) and
> for Jérôme to fix the sync parser (c).
> I tried both
>  . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex

Sorry ... Arthur told me that he fixed some issue, but it still
doesn't work (and probably has no chance to work), so you still need
both parts
    . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex

> and
> export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH
> in ~/.bash_profile file (that is, in Users/alancbowen)
> but when I typed
> texmfstart ctxtools --contextversion
> it listed only those in my texlive2007 distribution---no mention of the
> ConTeXtMinimals.

I forgot to tell you that you need to either:
- run that command manually
- run "bash"
- open a new Terminal
after you do the changes

You don't need to run texmfstart, it's OK to call just ctxtools, but
--contextversion seems to be broken in the minimals (some broken
functionality in kpathsea-mimicking library).

You should be able to use
    context --version
If context doesn't work, it means that you didn't set the PATH properly.

For setting HOMETEXMF you can help yourself, though it would be nice
if we provided a solution that worked out of the box. But I would like
to get a confirmation from Hans that it's OK to do that.

Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01  0:05 Michael Green
@ 2008-09-01 16:06 ` Alan Bowen
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Thanks, Michael! I will let you know how all this turns out.

Cheers, Alan

On Aug 31, 2008, at 20;05,05 , Michael Green wrote:

> Alan Bowen wrote:
>> Thanks, Michael; this is very helpful. I will prepare a .bash_profile
>> file and try it out. Where did you put your .bash_profile file?
>>
>> Alan
>
> .bash_profile should be saved as a text file at the top level of  
> your user account. That is, it should go right alongside the  
> directories that are standardly installed, like Documents, Library,  
> Movies, Music, Pictures, Public, and Sites.
>
> Note 1: the dot in front means it won't be visible in the Finder,  
> absent further fiddling and trickery.
>
> Note 2: if you're using TeXShop, I think that these sorts of  
> instructions go in "engine" files. If you look at the "mac newbie"  
> installation instructions, you'll see that the bit about  
> "source ..." is put into an engine file. I suspect, though I don't  
> know, that the TEXMFHOME and TEXMF lines would be incorporated in a  
> similar way.
>
> This may be an easier route to trying this sort of thing out than  
> using .bash_profile. It may be *much* easier if you're supporting  
> other people. Again, I don't know.
>
> By the way, Oliver B's problem appears to be resolved. Changes in  
> the personal texmf tree are picked up now, without further  
> intervention by the user.
>
> Good luck!
>
> Michael
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-09-01  7:16 ` Mojca Miklavec
@ 2008-09-01 16:03   ` Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01 16:24     ` Mojca Miklavec
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Hi, Mocja---

Many thanks for your reply: it is very encouraging. First things  
first, then: let’s make sure I have things in the right place.

The output of
find /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals | head -n 20
is
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/.DS_Store
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtx-update-old.lua
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtx-update.lua
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/mtxrun
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/bin/texlua
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/first-setup.sh
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/status-of-update.lua
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/.DS_Store
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex.bat
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex.tmf
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/.DS_Store
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/.DS_Store
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/fonts
/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf/doc/fonts/.DS_Store

I will wait for word from you about the changes you suggest to fix (a)  
and for Jérôme to fix the sync parser (c).

I tried both
  . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
and
export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH
in ~/.bash_profile file (that is, in Users/alancbowen)
but when I typed
texmfstart ctxtools --contextversion
it listed only those in my texlive2007 distribution---no mention of  
the ConTeXtMinimals.

Cheers, Alan

On Sep 1, 2008, at 03;16,18 , Mojca Miklavec wrote:

> Hello Alan,
>
> I'm sorry for not replying earlier.
>
> On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
>> What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for  
>> the wiki.
>> The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for installing  
>> the
>> minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real knowledge of  
>> unix (such
>> as myself) can follow easily. (There are a number of people  
>> scattered around
>> the world who help me in producing various publications; and since  
>> they too
>> are not unix savvy, I need such instructions if we are to keep our
>> installations functioning and up to date.)
>> Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder  
>> and the
>> user can run
>> \starttext
>> Hello world!
>> \stoptext
>> which is where the wiki (Installation>section 1.2) currently leaves  
>> off,
>> there still remain a few tasks.
>> Specifically,
>> (a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf
>> directory
>
> I usually put my files to texmf-local. Well, no, I actually copy
> "setuptex" into "mytex" and make local modifications there, so that I
> can include my own texmf trees (ugly solution). We just got a
> complaint about non-existant TEXMFHOME during the conference. We took
> setuptex from Hans' distribution and did not touch TEXMFHOME at all.
> The problem is that Hans wanted to prevent old local files to
> interefere with "standalone" tree, completely isolated from the outer
> world.
>
> We can either:
> - fix setuptex, but I would like to have Hans' permission to do it
> - create another "setupfriendlytex" :) and modify whatever we want  
> there
>
> The fix is super-easy: change
>    export HOMETEXMF=/nonexist
> into
>    export HOMETEXMF=~/.texmf
> (with or without the dot - up to you; MacTeX uses ~/Library/texmf or
> something similar, I think, but should check)
>
> And then add TEXMFHOME to the list:
>
> export TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!! 
> $TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'
>
> But I need someone to tell me to do that
>
>> (b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in
>> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal
>
> You can create ~/.bash_profile and put one of those lines into it (I
> suggest (a), but (b) would suffice):
> a) . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
> b) export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin: 
> $PATH
>
> Then, once you start a new shell, you'll see the programs in your
> shell. "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex" assumes that you have
> installed your files to that folder. Change accordingly. The minimals
> are not a GUI program, so I would rather put it to some other folder,
> but that's up to users. (I have the files simply in my home dir.)
>
> The main problem is that GUI programs won't see that ~/.bash_profile,
> so you need to follow the slighly off rules for TeXShop where there
> are indeed quite some mistakes.
>
> Can you please send the output of
>    find /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals | head -n 20
> I suspect that you were setting the wrong folder during download of  
> minimals.
>
>> (c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its  
>> ConTeXt source.
>> Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
>> Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
>> Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization  
>> technology by
>> Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier  
>> TeX
>> distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and  
>> XeTeX. In
>> modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls pdfetex  
>> (even if
>> using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the technology is  
>> available for
>> such typesetting. To use the technology, add the flag --synctex=1
>> Any advice on how to do(a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.
>
> You can try
>    texexec --passon="-synctex=1" filename
> but I didn't manage to make it work - it always pointed back to
> \stoptext or \page, just as it pointed to the end of minipage in
> LaTeX. Apart from the fact that I wasn't sure which tool to use to
> make rsync work (when I was testing, TeXShop didn't support synctex
> yet, TeXWorks behaved weird, and one would need to write support for
> TextMate first, but when Patrick tried it, he have up after
> discovering that it didn't work anyway).
>
> While answering you I just got a reply from Jérôme:
>
>> The problem comes from the synctex parser.
>> I made different experiments and forgot to test the latest one with  
>> context.
>> I will upload the new versions soon but I am afraid the various  
>> viewers must be updated.
>> You will have to wait a little longer...
>
> So sadly I need to repeat the last sentence from him ...
>
> Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
  2008-08-30 10:16 Alan Bowen
@ 2008-09-01  7:16 ` Mojca Miklavec
  2008-09-01 16:03   ` Alan Bowen
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From: Mojca Miklavec @ 2008-09-01  7:16 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello Alan,

I'm sorry for not replying earlier.

On Sat, Aug 30, 2008 at 12:16 PM, Alan Bowen wrote:
> What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for the wiki.
> The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for installing the
> minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real knowledge of unix (such
> as myself) can follow easily. (There are a number of people scattered around
> the world who help me in producing various publications; and since they too
> are not unix savvy, I need such instructions if we are to keep our
> installations functioning and up to date.)
> Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder and the
> user can run
> \starttext
> Hello world!
> \stoptext
> which is where the wiki (Installation>section 1.2) currently leaves off,
> there still remain a few tasks.
> Specifically,
> (a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf
> directory

I usually put my files to texmf-local. Well, no, I actually copy
"setuptex" into "mytex" and make local modifications there, so that I
can include my own texmf trees (ugly solution). We just got a
complaint about non-existant TEXMFHOME during the conference. We took
setuptex from Hans' distribution and did not touch TEXMFHOME at all.
The problem is that Hans wanted to prevent old local files to
interefere with "standalone" tree, completely isolated from the outer
world.

We can either:
- fix setuptex, but I would like to have Hans' permission to do it
- create another "setupfriendlytex" :) and modify whatever we want there

The fix is super-easy: change
    export HOMETEXMF=/nonexist
into
    export HOMETEXMF=~/.texmf
(with or without the dot - up to you; MacTeX uses ~/Library/texmf or
something similar, I think, but should check)

And then add TEXMFHOME to the list:

export TEXMF='{$TEXMFHOME,$TEXMFLOCAL,!!$TEXMFOS,!!$TEXMFCONTEXT,!!$TEXMFEXTRA,!!$TEXMFMAIN}'

But I need someone to tell me to do that

> (b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in
> /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal

You can create ~/.bash_profile and put one of those lines into it (I
suggest (a), but (b) would suffice):
a) . /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/setuptex
b) export PATH=/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex/texmf-osx-intel/bin:$PATH

Then, once you start a new shell, you'll see the programs in your
shell. "/Applications/ConTeXtMinimals/tex" assumes that you have
installed your files to that folder. Change accordingly. The minimals
are not a GUI program, so I would rather put it to some other folder,
but that's up to users. (I have the files simply in my home dir.)

The main problem is that GUI programs won't see that ~/.bash_profile,
so you need to follow the slighly off rules for TeXShop where there
are indeed quite some mistakes.

Can you please send the output of
    find /Applications/ConTeXtMinimals | head -n 20
I suspect that you were setting the wrong folder during download of minimals.

> (c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its ConTeXt source.
> Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
> Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
> Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization technology by
> Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier TeX
> distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and XeTeX. In
> modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls pdfetex (even if
> using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the technology is available for
> such typesetting. To use the technology, add the flag --synctex=1
> Any advice on how to do (a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.

You can try
    texexec --passon="-synctex=1" filename
but I didn't manage to make it work - it always pointed back to
\stoptext or \page, just as it pointed to the end of minipage in
LaTeX. Apart from the fact that I wasn't sure which tool to use to
make rsync work (when I was testing, TeXShop didn't support synctex
yet, TeXWorks behaved weird, and one would need to write support for
TextMate first, but when Patrick tried it, he have up after
discovering that it didn't work anyway).

While answering you I just got a reply from Jérôme:

> The problem comes from the synctex parser.
> I made different experiments and forgot to test the latest one with context.
> I will upload the new versions soon but I am afraid the various viewers must be updated.
> You will have to wait a little longer...

So sadly I need to repeat the last sentence from him ...

Mojca
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* Re: Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
@ 2008-09-01  0:05 Michael Green
  2008-09-01 16:06 ` Alan Bowen
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From: Michael Green @ 2008-09-01  0:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Alan Bowen wrote:
> Thanks, Michael; this is very helpful. I will prepare a .bash_profile
> file and try it out. Where did you put your .bash_profile file?
>
> Alan

.bash_profile should be saved as a text file at the top level of your  
user account. That is, it should go right alongside the directories  
that are standardly installed, like Documents, Library, Movies, Music,  
Pictures, Public, and Sites.

Note 1: the dot in front means it won't be visible in the Finder,  
absent further fiddling and trickery.

Note 2: if you're using TeXShop, I think that these sorts of  
instructions go in "engine" files. If you look at the "mac newbie"  
installation instructions, you'll see that the bit about "source ..."  
is put into an engine file. I suspect, though I don't know, that the  
TEXMFHOME and TEXMF lines would be incorporated in a similar way.

This may be an easier route to trying this sort of thing out than  
using .bash_profile. It may be *much* easier if you're supporting  
other people. Again, I don't know.

By the way, Oliver B's problem appears to be resolved. Changes in the  
personal texmf tree are picked up now, without further intervention by  
the user.

Good luck!

Michael

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* Installing ConTeXt Minimals on a Mac
@ 2008-08-30 10:16 Alan Bowen
  2008-09-01  7:16 ` Mojca Miklavec
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What follows are some queries that I will be happy to write up for the  
wiki. The aim (hope?) is to develop a set of instructions for  
installing the minimals on a Mac that a Mac user without any real  
knowledge of unix (such as myself) can follow easily. (There are a  
number of people scattered around the world who help me in producing  
various publications; and since they too are not unix savvy, I need  
such instructions if we are to keep our installations functioning and  
up to date.)

Once the ConTeXt minimals are installed in the Applications folder and  
the user can run
\starttext
Hello world!
\stoptext
which is where the wiki (Installation>section 1.2) currently leaves  
off, there still remain a few tasks.

Specifically,

(a) getting this ConTeXt installation to recognize a personal texmf  
directory

(b) running the various binaries (e.g., texmfstart, ctxtools) in / 
Applications/ConTeXtMinimals from Terminal

(c) establishing synchronization between  PDF output and its ConTeXt  
source. Currently, it does not seem to work (with TeXShop at least)
	Note, in the latest TeXShop there is
Added support for SyncTeX. SyncTeX is new synchronization technology  
by Jerome Laurens which is included in TeX Live 2008 (but not earlier  
TeX distributions). The technology is built directly into pdfTeX and  
XeTeX. In modern TeX distributions, most typesetting actually calls  
pdfetex (even if using latex to output a dvi file), and thus the  
technology is available for such typesetting. To use the technology,  
add the flag --synctex=1

Any advice on how to do (a), (b), and (c) will be much appreciated.

Alan







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