From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/72526 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robin Kirkham Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: \unit and Hertz, lux, and degrees/minutes/seconds Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:10:42 +1100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1084) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1279305888==" X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1321585890 19431 80.91.229.12 (18 Nov 2011 03:11:30 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 03:11:30 +0000 (UTC) To: "ntg-context@ntg.nl" Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Nov 18 04:11:26 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1RRErM-0001qz-QM for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:11:24 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0353CB0EA; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:11:23 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id rbRU4udMfCkA; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:11:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3148CCB0C8; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:11:08 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2C3C1CB0C8 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:11:06 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id FXo6rU6bvnXg for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:10:52 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter4-til.mf.surf.net (filter4-til.mf.surf.net [194.171.167.220]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 147F2CB0C3 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:10:51 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from vic-MTAout2.csiro.au (vic-MTAout2.csiro.au [150.229.64.38]) by filter4-til.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id pAI3Al4K029996 for ; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 04:10:48 +0100 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=csiro.au; i=robin.kirkham@csiro.au; q=dns/txt; s=email; t=1321585849; x=1353121849; h=from:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:to:references: message-id; bh=cegCxNc1FGcc2R3a5DowDea00Stc4YoaH+bIcHv2gpI=; b=tZ1fOZBD6nnPg8Yi952IStLxULR5dNMDWQoModmyFfDBtyEYz8XQ8bsO 4wQbs9kxsTq6WylKDTblnLcKKPrHe5HzdPQ2GsuNVzMej4YftoQ7Ix6kH Bo8A5dxXKGtV/nM; X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.69,529,1315144800"; d="scan'208,217";a="72990392" Original-Received: from exnsw-htca02.nexus.csiro.au ([130.155.117.127]) by vic-ironport-int.csiro.au with ESMTP/TLS/RC4-MD5; 18 Nov 2011 14:10:45 +1100 Original-Received: from kir092m.clayton.csiro.au (138.194.25.80) by EXNSW-HTCA02.nexus.csiro.au (130.155.117.127) with Microsoft SMTP Server id 8.3.213.0; Fri, 18 Nov 2011 14:10:42 +1100 In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1084) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=150.229.64.38; country=AU; region=01; city=Canberra; latitude=-35.2833; longitude=149.2167; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=-35.2833,149.2167&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 05FWraMOq - 9935e9ad72c6 - 20111118 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.216 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:72526 Archived-At: --===============1279305888== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail-42--318741245" --Apple-Mail-42--318741245 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" On 18/11/2011, Pontus Lurcock wrote: >>> Degrees, minutes and seconds of arc (also degrees Celsius) are an >>> exception and are not supposed to have any space between the=20 >>> digits and the degree symbol [1], so to be correct, I think=20 >>> Context should by default veto any space between digits and=20 >>> numbers, in these cases only. >>=20 >> Correction, I should have written "(but not degrees Celsius)", >> apologies. >=20 > Conventions for setting the degrees of temperature symbol vary; see > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Degree_symbol#Typography and references > therein. In most professionally published works that I've seen, there > is no space between the number and the =B0, or between the =B0 and the = C. Pont,=20 I agree they vary, and no space before the =B0C is quite common (and = frequently my own practice too). However in setting default behaviour = for Context I am inclined to favour conforming to international = standards, where they exist (but a \setupunits override it probably = called for). Robin= --Apple-Mail-42--318741245 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Pontus Lurcock <pont@talvi.net> = wrote:

Degrees, minutes and seconds of arc (also = degrees Celsius) are an
exception and are not supposed to have any = space between the 
digits and the degree = symbol [1], so to be correct, I think 
Context should by = default veto any space between digits and 
numbers, in these cases = only.
Correction, I should have written = "(but not degrees Celsius)",
 and references
therein. In most = professionally published works that I've seen, there
is no space = between the number and the =B0, or between the =B0 and the = C.

Pont, 

= I agree they vary, and no space before the =B0C is quite common = (and frequently my own practice too). However in setting default = behaviour for Context I am inclined to favour conforming to = international standards, where they exist (but a \setupunits override it = probably called for).

Robin
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