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* [NTG-context] [ natural tables ]
@ 2024-12-29 12:41 vm via ntg-context
  2024-12-29 15:05 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
  2024-12-29 16:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: vm via ntg-context @ 2024-12-29 12:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
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copying the example from page 4 in
https://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/enattab.pdf

8<---

\starttext
Natural Tables begin prev next quit
1 2 3 4
1 2/3 4
1 4
1 2 3 4
\bTABLE[align={middle,lohi}]
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD[nr=2,nc=2,color=red] 2/3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE
\stoptext

--->8

i don't get the same result as is show in the manual.
rather the color=red seems to spread over the frame of the cell as well.
did some defaults change over time, or am i missing something?

.Floris


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* [NTG-context] Re: [ natural tables ]
  2024-12-29 12:41 [NTG-context] [ natural tables ] vm via ntg-context
@ 2024-12-29 15:05 ` Hans Hagen via ntg-context
  2024-12-29 15:39   ` vm via ntg-context
  2024-12-29 16:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Hans Hagen via ntg-context @ 2024-12-29 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 12/29/2024 1:41 PM, vm via ntg-context wrote:
> 
> copying the example from page 4 in
> https://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/enattab.pdf
> 
> 8<---
> 
> \starttext
> Natural Tables begin prev next quit
> 1 2 3 4
> 1 2/3 4
> 1 4
> 1 2 3 4
> \bTABLE[align={middle,lohi}]
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD[nr=2,nc=2,color=red] 2/3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \eTABLE
> \stoptext
> 
> --->8
> 
> i don't get the same result as is show in the manual.
> rather the color=red seems to spread over the frame of the cell as well.
> did some defaults change over time, or am i missing something?

This gives a clue:

\starttext

\bTABLE[align={middle,lohi}]
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD[nr=2,nc=2,foregroundcolor=red] 2/3 \eTD \bTD 4 
\eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
\bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE

\bTABLE[align={middle,lohi}]
\bTR \bTD[nr=2,nc=2,color=red] 2/3 \eTD \eTR
\eTABLE

\stoptext


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* [NTG-context] Re: [ natural tables ]
  2024-12-29 15:05 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
@ 2024-12-29 15:39   ` vm via ntg-context
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From: vm via ntg-context @ 2024-12-29 15:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 29/12/2024 16:05, Hans Hagen via ntg-context wrote:
> This gives a clue:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \bTABLE[align={middle,lohi}]
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD[nr=2,nc=2,foregroundcolor=red] 2/3 \eTD \bTD 4 
> \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \eTABLE
> 
> \bTABLE[align={middle,lohi}]
> \bTR \bTD[nr=2,nc=2,color=red] 2/3 \eTD \eTR
> \eTABLE
> 
> \stoptext


in the first table of the example the spacing around the 2/3 double cell 
is not what is expected as it expects more width


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* [NTG-context] Re: [ natural tables ]
  2024-12-29 12:41 [NTG-context] [ natural tables ] vm via ntg-context
  2024-12-29 15:05 ` [NTG-context] " Hans Hagen via ntg-context
@ 2024-12-29 16:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2024-12-29 16:32   ` vm via ntg-context
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2024-12-29 16:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
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vm via ntg-context schrieb am 29.12.2024 um 13:41:
>
> copying the example from page 4 in
> https://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/enattab.pdf
>
> 8<---
>
> \starttext
> Natural Tables begin prev next quit
> 1 2 3 4
> 1 2/3 4
> 1 4
> 1 2 3 4
> \bTABLE[align={middle,lohi}]
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD[nr=2,nc=2,color=red] 2/3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \bTR \bTD 1 \eTD \bTD 2 \eTD \bTD 3 \eTD \bTD 4 \eTD \eTR
> \eTABLE
> \stoptext
>
> --->8
>
> i don't get the same result as is show in the manual.
> rather the color=red seems to spread over the frame of the cell as well.
> did some defaults change over time, or am i missing something?

The manual is typeset with MkII which has the default setting 
"framecolor=black"
for natural tables while the newer systems leave the framecolor value empty.

\starttext

\color[red]{\framed[framecolor=black]{text}}

\color[green]{\framed[framecolor=]{text}}

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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* [NTG-context] Re: [ natural tables ]
  2024-12-29 16:07 ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2024-12-29 16:32   ` vm via ntg-context
  2024-12-29 23:58     ` [NTG-context] Pennstander Julius Ross
  2024-12-30 14:15     ` [NTG-context] Re: [ natural tables ] Garulfo
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From: vm via ntg-context @ 2024-12-29 16:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Wolfgang Schuster, mailing list for ConTeXt users; +Cc: vm



On 29/12/2024 17:07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
> The manual is typeset with MkII which has the default setting 
> "framecolor=black"
> for natural tables while the newer systems leave the framecolor value 
> empty.

Would it be useful to recompile all online documentation with the 
current version LMTX in order to avoid confusion to novice users (like 
myself) ?

e.g. that the automated wellness check for a new release also generates 
the online docs?

.F
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* [NTG-context] Pennstander
  2024-12-29 16:32   ` vm via ntg-context
@ 2024-12-29 23:58     ` Julius Ross
  2024-12-30  1:10       ` [NTG-context] Pennstander Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context
  2024-12-30 14:15     ` [NTG-context] Re: [ natural tables ] Garulfo
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From: Julius Ross @ 2024-12-29 23:58 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Dear ConTeXt-users-with-interest-in-typesetting-mathematics,

I have made public a first version of an "informal" mathematics font aimed
at LuaLaTeX/ConTeXt.   It was a just-for-fun thing, so advice/bug
reports/comments welcome.

https://github.com/juliusross1/Pennstander

Also, if anybody has ConTeXt documents with (lots of) equations they are
willing to share with me as test documents that would be much appreciated.

Kind regards,

Julius

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* [NTG-context] Re: Pennstander
  2024-12-29 23:58     ` [NTG-context] Pennstander Julius Ross
@ 2024-12-30  1:10       ` Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context
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From: Peter Hopcroft via ntg-context @ 2024-12-30  1:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Nice.  Thank you.

> On 30/12/2024, at 1:00 PM, Julius Ross <juliusross@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear ConTeXt-users-with-interest-in-typesetting-mathematics,
> 
> I have made public a first version of an "informal" mathematics font aimed at LuaLaTeX/ConTeXt.   It was a just-for-fun thing, so advice/bug reports/comments welcome.  
> 
> https://github.com/juliusross1/Pennstander
> 
> Also, if anybody has ConTeXt documents with (lots of) equations they are willing to share with me as test documents that would be much appreciated.
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Julius
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
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* [NTG-context] Re: [ natural tables ]
  2024-12-29 16:32   ` vm via ntg-context
  2024-12-29 23:58     ` [NTG-context] Pennstander Julius Ross
@ 2024-12-30 14:15     ` Garulfo
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From: Garulfo @ 2024-12-30 14:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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recompiled version is available
cf. https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Documentation

LMTX version
http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/examples-naturaltables.pdf

MKII version (I have to switch it to the deprecated category)
http://www.pragma-ade.nl/general/manuals/enattab.pdf



Le 29/12/2024 à 17:32, vm via ntg-context a écrit :
> 
> 
> On 29/12/2024 17:07, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>>
>> The manual is typeset with MkII which has the default setting 
>> "framecolor=black"
>> for natural tables while the newer systems leave the framecolor value 
>> empty.
> 
> Would it be useful to recompile all online documentation with the 
> current version LMTX in order to avoid confusion to novice users (like 
> myself) ?
> 
> e.g. that the automated wellness check for a new release also generates 
> the online docs?
> 
> .F
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> to the Wiki!
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