From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/66964 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Otared Kavian Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: math spacing Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:18 +0100 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1082) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1300101286 22379 80.91.229.12 (14 Mar 2011 11:14:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 14 Mar 2011 11:14:46 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Mar 14 12:14:39 2011 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Pz5jT-00071E-QA for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:39 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 16B4CCAB08; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:39 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 2sYsHFd2AYDS; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7ADB9CAB00; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:36 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 97119CAB00 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:35 +0100 (CET) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id N+-YyZRwqNXx for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from filter3-nij.mf.surf.net (filter3-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.154]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 334BDCAAF0 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:24 +0100 (CET) Original-Received: from mail-fx0-f41.google.com (mail-fx0-f41.google.com [209.85.161.41]) by filter3-nij.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5+lenny1) with ESMTP id p2EBENme004175 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 12:14:23 +0100 Original-Received: by fxm18 with SMTP id 18so3693332fxm.14 for ; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:14:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to :x-mailer; bh=sIXVd1Aoh1xajFg5A1Wqt+zILAfDTGrdU3XlehjZpkM=; b=ixuOqoIWTDHwtRHs0dS9Mtxm0tJ2t4T7wuIInLDUy5/ZDxm+sGFz+aATiF0DnZ48bM 5fbrukzhf+m2OHDLAueEYx6NcRT9eyuspsRQqV/0xiryV8voZJlNN4r/cOVnL2zhMHdf Uu0SKITTAMogpAsYGCnrtlYpAkkp7pJ1NP4yU= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to:x-mailer; b=lY4avRsgPuryd17v13NCYrldDatUpw940eozckUZU9RlnqpFGlqyqvsBAT1CY8jFRy 0fbQSeknrgJkU09PHHnltnAYqC7opHD+qmIz3ldrd515ZR07R6i2TKosU5cSQRrItzs8 TcAW8fPIGSxbMoAP753juXDeL4F6eJkm5+Nf0= Original-Received: by 10.223.145.143 with SMTP id d15mr7717506fav.45.1300101262863; Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:14:22 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [193.51.32.246] ([193.51.32.246]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id n26sm2968044fam.37.2011.03.14.04.14.19 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 14 Mar 2011 04:14:20 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1082) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.161.41; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0dEiXenlb - c03cccf18038 - 20110314 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:66964 Archived-At: Hi Hans VdM and Wolfgang, It is true that naming a variable PYR, even in plain TeX, as shown below, g= ives rise to an ugly mathematical symbol since there is a certain distance = between the =AB Y =BB and the =AB R =BB with math italic: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4316076/spacing-plain.pdf The problem may be the bounding box of =AB Y =BB. However, I think that in the example given by Hans VdM in mkiv, there is an= other, more important, issue which is the way the commas are treated betwee= n the variables Q, Y, N, P, Y, Z in math italic. Please compare the followi= ng outputs, one obtained with mkii and the other with mkiv: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4316076/spacing-mkii.pdf http://dl.dropbox.com/u/4316076/spacing-mkiv.pdf I think that this is a big issue in typesetting maths with mkiv since punct= uations are treated in an incorrect way. Best regards: OK PS: Sorry for the delay=85 yesterday this message was rejected when sent wi= th the attached PDFs, because it was over 64Kb. On 13 mars 2011, at 13:16, Hans van der Meer wrote: > It might be that I am missing something here. But I don not understand wh= y in the math expression below the spacing behind the letters is different.= With this behaviour it seems impossible to name a variable PYR and have it= typeset as such. > = > Hans van der Meer > = > = > \starttext > $\tfd Q,Y,N,P,Y,Z \quad PYR$ > \stoptext > ConTeXt ver: 2011.02.25 22:03 MKIV fmt: 2011.3.11 int: english/english > = > = > _______________________________________________________________= ____________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! > = > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-co= ntext > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________