Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Tommaso Gordini]

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Hi everyone.

I am typesetting a poetry text in triplets and I would like the second and
third lines of each triplet to be indented (i.e., in the next example,
verse no. 2, 3, 5, and 6).

Is it possible to get what I ask for with ConTeXt?

The most I managed to do is this:

\starttext

\setupindenting[yes,1em]
\setuplines[indenting=even]

\startlines
Per correr miglior acque alza le vele
omai la navicella del mio ingegno,
che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;
e canterò di quel secondo regno
dove l'umano spirito si purga
e di salire al ciel diventa degno.
\stoplines

\stoptext

but that's not what I want.

Thank you very much in advance?
Tommy

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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/2/2020 3:01 PM, Tommaso Gordini wrote:
> Hi everyone.
> 
> I am typesetting a poetry text in triplets and I would like the second 
> and third lines of each triplet to be indented (i.e., in the next 
> example, verse no. 2, 3, 5, and 6).
> 
> Is it possible to get what I ask for with ConTeXt?
> 
> The most I managed to do is this:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \setupindenting[yes,1em]
> \setuplines[indenting=even]
> 
> \startlines
> Per correr miglior acque alza le vele
> omai la navicella del mio ingegno,
> che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;
> e canterò di quel secondo regno
> dove l'umano spirito si purga
> e di salire al ciel diventa degno.
> \stoplines
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> but that's not what I want.
I'll add this

\setuplines[indentnext={0pt,10pt,15pt,20pt}]

% \setuplines[indentnext={0pt,*,*}]

which then is a challenge for WS to get in the setups and for you to wikify

Hans

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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hans Hagen schrieb am 02.07.2020 um 15:40:
> On 7/2/2020 3:01 PM, Tommaso Gordini wrote:
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> I am typesetting a poetry text in triplets and I would like the 
>> second and third lines of each triplet to be indented (i.e., in the 
>> next example, verse no. 2, 3, 5, and 6).
>>
>> Is it possible to get what I ask for with ConTeXt?
>>
>> The most I managed to do is this:
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \setupindenting[yes,1em]
>> \setuplines[indenting=even]
>>
>> \startlines
>> Per correr miglior acque alza le vele
>> omai la navicella del mio ingegno,
>> che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;
>> e canterò di quel secondo regno
>> dove l'umano spirito si purga
>> e di salire al ciel diventa degno.
>> \stoplines
>>
>> \stoptext
>>
>> but that's not what I want.
> I'll add this
>
> \setuplines[indentnext={0pt,10pt,15pt,20pt}]
>
> % \setuplines[indentnext={0pt,*,*}]
>
> which then is a challenge for WS to get in the setups and for you to 
> wikify

Are you sure you use the correct key?

Wolfgang

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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Hans Hagen]

On 7/2/2020 4:15 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> Hans Hagen schrieb am 02.07.2020 um 15:40:
>> On 7/2/2020 3:01 PM, Tommaso Gordini wrote:
>>> Hi everyone.
>>>
>>> I am typesetting a poetry text in triplets and I would like the 
>>> second and third lines of each triplet to be indented (i.e., in the 
>>> next example, verse no. 2, 3, 5, and 6).
>>>
>>> Is it possible to get what I ask for with ConTeXt?
>>>
>>> The most I managed to do is this:
>>>
>>> \starttext
>>>
>>> \setupindenting[yes,1em]
>>> \setuplines[indenting=even]
>>>
>>> \startlines
>>> Per correr miglior acque alza le vele
>>> omai la navicella del mio ingegno,
>>> che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;
>>> e canterò di quel secondo regno
>>> dove l'umano spirito si purga
>>> e di salire al ciel diventa degno.
>>> \stoplines
>>>
>>> \stoptext
>>>
>>> but that's not what I want.
>> I'll add this
>>
>> \setuplines[indentnext={0pt,10pt,15pt,20pt}]
>>
>> % \setuplines[indentnext={0pt,*,*}]
>>
>> which then is a challenge for WS to get in the setups and for you to 
>> wikify
> 
> Are you sure you use the correct key?

Well, we have that key (and maybe some day we can do that for all), i 
was wondering about 'left' but then we'd need some \cycle command or so

Hans



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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Hans Hagen schrieb am 02.07.2020 um 16:48:
> On 7/2/2020 4:15 PM, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>> Hans Hagen schrieb am 02.07.2020 um 15:40:
>>> On 7/2/2020 3:01 PM, Tommaso Gordini wrote:
>>>> [...]
>>> I'll add this
>>>
>>> \setuplines[indentnext={0pt,10pt,15pt,20pt}]
>>>
>>> % \setuplines[indentnext={0pt,*,*}]
>>>
>>> which then is a challenge for WS to get in the setups and for you to 
>>> wikify
>>
>> Are you sure you use the correct key?
>
> Well, we have that key (and maybe some day we can do that for all), i 
> was wondering about 'left' but then we'd need some \cycle command or so

But indentnext is only used to prevent or allow indentation of a 
paragraph at the end of an environment.

Wolfgang

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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Taco Hoekwater]

I was having fun with this as well while Hans was writing his generic solution. 

Here is an explicit ‘indent each 2nd and 3rd line’:

%%%%%%%%
\unprotect

\installindentingmethod {three} {\c_spac_indentation_toggle_state\plusthree}
  
\unexpanded\def\spac_indentation_tri_toggle_indeed
  {\glet\checkindentation\spac_indentation_tri_toggle}

\unexpanded\def\spac_indentation_tri_toggle
  {\gdef\checkindentation
      {\spac_indentation_remove
       \gdef\checkindentation{\spac_indentation_tri_toggle_indeed}}}

% this next macro is redefinition of a core macro !
\def\spac_indentation_check_toggle
 {\ifcase\c_spac_indentation_toggle_state
    % nothing
  \or
    \spac_indentation_no_toggle
  \or
    \spac_indentation_do_toggle
  \or
    \spac_indentation_tri_toggle
  \fi}
\protect
%%%%%%%%%%

to be used with:

  \setuplines[indenting=three]


Best wishes,
Taco

> On 2 Jul 2020, at 15:01, Tommaso Gordini <illinguista1972@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \setupindenting[yes,1em]
> \setuplines[indenting=even]
> 
> \startlines
> Per correr miglior acque alza le vele
> omai la navicella del mio ingegno,
> che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;
> e canterò di quel secondo regno
> dove l'umano spirito si purga
> e di salire al ciel diventa degno.
> \stoplines
> 
> \stoptext

Taco Hoekwater
Elvenkind BV




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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Tommaso Gordini]

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Taco, this works!
Thank you!

Now (last question), it's possibile to centering in the middle of the page
the whole verse block ?

Tommy

Il giorno gio 2 lug 2020 alle ore 15:56 Taco Hoekwater <taco@elvenkind.com>
ha scritto:

>
> I was having fun with this as well while Hans was writing his generic
> solution.
>
> Here is an explicit ‘indent each 2nd and 3rd line’:
>
> %%%%%%%%
> \unprotect
>
> \installindentingmethod {three}
> {\c_spac_indentation_toggle_state\plusthree}
>
> \unexpanded\def\spac_indentation_tri_toggle_indeed
>   {\glet\checkindentation\spac_indentation_tri_toggle}
>
> \unexpanded\def\spac_indentation_tri_toggle
>   {\gdef\checkindentation
>       {\spac_indentation_remove
>        \gdef\checkindentation{\spac_indentation_tri_toggle_indeed}}}
>
> % this next macro is redefinition of a core macro !
> \def\spac_indentation_check_toggle
>  {\ifcase\c_spac_indentation_toggle_state
>     % nothing
>   \or
>     \spac_indentation_no_toggle
>   \or
>     \spac_indentation_do_toggle
>   \or
>     \spac_indentation_tri_toggle
>   \fi}
> \protect
> %%%%%%%%%%
>
> to be used with:
>
>   \setuplines[indenting=three]
>
>
> Best wishes,
> Taco
>
> > On 2 Jul 2020, at 15:01, Tommaso Gordini <illinguista1972@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \setupindenting[yes,1em]
> > \setuplines[indenting=even]
> >
> > \startlines
> > Per correr miglior acque alza le vele
> > omai la navicella del mio ingegno,
> > che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;
> > e canterò di quel secondo regno
> > dove l'umano spirito si purga
> > e di salire al ciel diventa degno.
> > \stoplines
> >
> > \stoptext
>
> Taco Hoekwater
> Elvenkind BV
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Tommaso Gordini schrieb am 02.07.2020 um 16:48:
> Taco, this works!
> Thank you!
>
> Now (last question), it's possibile to centering in the middle of the 
> page the whole verse block ?
You can use the framedtext environment but the content can no longer 
split across pages.

\starttext

\startframedtext[middle][frame=off,width=fit]
\startlines
Per correr miglior acque alza le vele
omai la navicella del mio ingegno,
che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;
e canterò di quel secondo regno
dove l'umano spirito si purga
e di salire al ciel diventa degno.
\stoplines
\stopframedtext

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Tommaso Gordini]

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Thanks, Wolfgang. Your example works, but the verse indentation (
\setuplines[indenting=three]) is lost.
There's a way to preserve it?

Tommy

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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Tommaso Gordini]

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I have found this, that works, buy I don't know if there's a possibility of
using less code:

% !TEX encoding = UTF-8 Unicode

% !TEX TS-program = ConTeXt-MkIV


% questo codice centra il blocco dei versi sulla pagina

\defineframedtext

  [poemframed]

  [width=\textwidth,

   autowidth=force,

   align=flushleft,

   before=,

   after=,

   frame=off]


\definenarrower[poemnarrower]


\definelines

  [poemlines]

  [before={\startpoemnarrower[left]},

   after=\stoppoemnarrower]


\definebuffer[poem]


\def\stoppoem{\setups{poems:buffer}}


\startsetups poems:buffer

  \setupnarrower[poemnarrower][left=0pt]

  \setbox\scratchbox\vbox

    {\poemframed

    {\startpoemlines

       \getpoem

      \stoppoemlines}}

  \edef\poemhsize{\the\dimexpr(\hsize-\wd\scratchbox)/2\relax}

  \setupnarrower[poemnarrower][left=\poemhsize]

  \startpoemlines

    \getpoem

  \stoppoemlines

\stopsetups


% questo codice rientra ogni secondo e terzo verso

\unprotect

\installindentingmethod {three} {\c_spac_indentation_toggle_state\plusthree}


\unexpanded\def\spac_indentation_tri_toggle_indeed

  {\glet\checkindentation\spac_indentation_tri_toggle}


\unexpanded\def\spac_indentation_tri_toggle

  {\gdef\checkindentation

      {\spac_indentation_remove

       \gdef\checkindentation{\spac_indentation_tri_toggle_indeed}}}


% this next macro is redefinition of a core macro!

\def\spac_indentation_check_toggle

 {\ifcase\c_spac_indentation_toggle_state

    % nothing

  \or

    \spac_indentation_no_toggle

  \or

    \spac_indentation_do_toggle

  \or

    \spac_indentation_tri_toggle

  \fi}

\protect


% questo codice attiva il rientro

\setupindenting[yes,1em]

\setuplines[indenting=three]


\starttext


\startpoem

Per correr miglior acque alza le vele

omai la navicella del mio ingegno,

che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;

e canterò di quel secondo regno

dove l'umano spirito si purga

e di salire al ciel diventa degno.

Ma qui la morta poesì resurga,

o sante Muse, poi che vostro sono;

e qui Calïopè alquanto surga,

seguitando il mio canto con quel suono

di cui le Piche misere sentiro

lo colpo tal, che disperar perdono.
\stoppoem

\stoptext

Il giorno gio 2 lug 2020 alle ore 17:14 Tommaso Gordini <
illinguista1972@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Thanks, Wolfgang. Your example works, but the verse indentation (
> \setuplines[indenting=three]) is lost.
> There's a way to preserve it?
>
> Tommy
>
>

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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Tommaso Gordini schrieb am 02.07.2020 um 17:33:
> I have found this, that works, buy I don't know if there's a possibility 
> of using less code:
> 
> [...]

The following example needs version 2020.07.02 or newer.

%%%% begin example
\definelines [poem]

\setuplines
   [poem]
   [ 
before={\startframedtext[location=middle,width=fit,offset=none,frame=off]},
         after={\stopframedtext},
    indentlist={0em,1em,1em}]

\starttext

\startpoem
Per correr miglior acque alza le vele
omai la navicella del mio ingegno,
che lascia dietro a sé mar sì crudele;
e canterò di quel secondo regno
dove l'umano spirito si purga
e di salire al ciel diventa degno.
Ma qui la morta poesì resurga,
o sante Muse, poi che vostro sono;
e qui Calïopè alquanto surga,
seguitando il mio canto con quel suono
di cui le Piche misere sentiro
lo colpo tal, che disperar perdono.
\stoppoem

\stoptext
%%%% end example

Wolfgang
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Re: Typesetting poetry with particular indenting

[Floris van Manen]

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On 02/07/2020 20:46, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> The following example needs version 2020.07.02 or newer.
Nice !

.F

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