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[77.7.69.66]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j16sm8070312bkv.1.2012.11.26.15.11.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Mon, 26 Nov 2012 15:11:15 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <50B3E772.3040606@web.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.214.41; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 06IsnbgQw - a53d841bb585 - 20121127 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 194.171.167.219 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:79557 Archived-At: Am 26.11.2012 um 23:04 schrieb Pablo Rodr=EDguez : > On 26/11/12 21:39, Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 11/26/2012 8:01 PM, Pablo Rodr=EDguez wrote: >>> Sorry for the stupid question: isn't it font kerning (not kern OT table, >>> but traditional non-OT kerning) enabled when compiling this source? >> = >> kerning is *always* driven by the font, given that the font has kerns = >> (not all fonts need them) > = > Thanks for your reply, Hans. > = > Sorry, my question was inaccurate. > = > I know that kerning information is in the font, but it is ConTeXt that > uses this information (or not). > = > As far as I know, there are two kinds of kerningns: an OT kern feature > from the GPOS table and an old TrueType 'kern' table. > = > In the following sample OpenType features aren't enabled: > = > \usemodule[simplefonts][size=3D30pt] > \setmainfont[FreeSerif] > \starttext > dadedidodufafefifofufrflftlalelilolutatetitotu\par > {\em dadedidodufafefifofufrflftlalelilolutatetitotu\par} > {\bf dadedidodufafefifofufrflftlalelilolutatetitotu\par} > {\bf\em dadedidodufafefifofufrflftlalelilolutatetitotu\par} > \stoptext > = > I'm using TrueType fonts of FreeSerif. Isn't the TrueType 'kern' enabled > by default in ConTeXt? (The glyphs in the example above have no kerning > at all, so I wonder whether at least the TrueType 'kern' table should be > used by ConTeXt.) Is there a difference between the two lines? \usemodule[simplefonts] \setmainfont[FreeSerif] \starttext \showfontkerns dadedidodufafefifofufrflftlalelilolutatetitotu\par {\definedfont[file:serif*default]dadedidodufafefifofufrflftlalelilolutateti= totu\par} \stoptext Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________