Re: Basic font question (Optima, but no bold, no italics). Standalone ConTeXt does not work. TeX Live 2019 works

[Benjamin Buchmuller <benjamin.buchmuller@gmail.com>]

Hi Hraban,

Thanks for the hint (and the proper fontfamily setup), I have forced reload ten times now from various accounts; the issue persists unfortunately. 

This might confirm Taco‘s notion that there is some bug lmtx. I’m running macOS Catalina too, but as it worked with the standalone of Dec/Jan three days ago, I suspect it is not because of a new feature in the OS, but rather an old feature in mtxrun or elsewhere having disappeared. 

> On 24. Apr 2020, at 11:35, Henning Hraban Ramm <texml@fiee.net> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> Am 24.04.2020 um 11:13 schrieb Benjamin Buchmuller <benjamin.buchmuller@gmail.com>:
>> 
>> Although this specific issue might have been solved meanwhile by the helpful suggestions of Wolfang, Thomas and others, I would like to point out that I have recently also encountered an odd behaviour of the mtxrun fontloader in the standalone, in which not all typefaces are available/properly identified.
>> 
>> (I’m sorry to hijack this thread if this is unrelated.)
>> 
>> Basically, when I load “Helvetica Neue”, I get instead of “regular/normal” always “light/italic”.
>> 
>> I have switched to heros for the meantime, but potentially there is some bug behind this. (My documents with the version from Dec/Jan worked fine.)
>> 
>> I recite my example from Wed:
>> 
>> ConTeXt  ver: 2020.01.30 14:13 MKIV beta  fmt: 2020.4.22 (LuaTeX 1.11.1)
>> 
>> and I’m running now into troubles with system font indexing:
>> 
>> mtxrun --script fonts --reload
>> 
>> locates fonts in macOS directories appropriately (*.afm fonts placed in .../tex/texmf-fonts are not found, but at the moment I don’t care too much), however it resolves only to a single font variant for *.ttc instead of all variants:
>> 
>> mtxrun --script fonts --list --all --pattern=helvetica
>> 
>> helvetica                         helvetica                    helveticalightoblique         /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    6
>> helveticalightoblique             helvetica                    helveticalightoblique         /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    6
>> helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy   helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy   /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   10
>> helveticaneuethinitalic           helveticaneue                helveticaneuethinitalic       /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                14
> 
> If the subfont is not listed, ConTeXt/mtxrun couldn’t find it and won’t find it regardless of your setup.
> 
> Try
> mtxrun --script fonts --reload --force
> maybe even twice or thrice and check again.
> (Unfortunately this is not reliable.)
> 
> I get the full list:
> 
> identifier                               familyname                   fontname                                   filename                                               subfont   instances
> 
> helvetica                                helvetica                    helvetica                                  /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    1
> helveticaneueblack                       helveticaneue                helveticaneuecondensedblack                /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                10
> helveticaneuedeskinterfaceextrabold      helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfaceheavy            /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   10
> helveticaneuedeskinterfaceextralight     helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfacethin             /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   8
> helveticaneuedeskinterfacemedium         helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediump4         /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   5
> helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediumitalic   helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfacemediumitalicp4   /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   6
> helveticaneuedeskinterfacenormal         helveticaneuedeskinterface   helveticaneuedeskinterfaceregular          /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeueDeskInterface.ttc   1
> helveticaneueextralight                  helveticaneue                helveticaneuethin                          /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                13
> helveticaneuenormal                      helveticaneue                helveticaneue                              /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                1
> helveticaneueregular                     helveticaneue                helveticaneue                              /System/Library/Fonts/HelveticaNeue.ttc                1
> helveticanormal                          helvetica                    helvetica                                  /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    1
> helveticaregular                         helvetica                    helvetica                                  /System/Library/Fonts/Helvetica.ttc                    1
> 
> 
> 
>> As a consequence, when I run
>> 
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Helvetica Neue]
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface, 12pt, sans]
>> 
>> I get the light oblique variant instead of the regular one. I have tried to fix this via a 
>> 
>> \definefontfamily[mainface][ss][Helvetica Neue][tf=style:normal]
> 
> tf=helveticaregular
> should work.
> 
> 
> Best, Hraban
> 
> 
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