From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/95270 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Meer, Hans van der" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: smallcaps Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:26:24 +0000 Message-ID: References: <77161DD2-3975-4170-A7AF-1E10E1C265F7@ziggo.nl> <57738E23.9080908@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============2781828323813411945==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1467192427 10634 80.91.229.3 (29 Jun 2016 09:27:07 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2016 09:27:07 +0000 (UTC) To: NTG ConTeXt Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Wed Jun 29 11:26:55 2016 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from zapf.boekplan.nl ([5.39.185.232] helo=zapf.ntg.nl) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1bIBlm-00018E-98 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:26:54 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id C3805107EE; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:26:38 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id e58cu5ouqQYX; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:26:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id CEAD4107F3; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:26:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A993B107EF for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:26:36 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at zapf.boekplan.nl Original-Received: from zapf.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (zapf.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id Lop0WHuQGtX0 for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:26:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from HUB02.uva.nl (hub02.uva.nl [146.50.108.231]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by zapf.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66117107EE for ; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:26:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from MBX02.uva.nl ([169.254.2.159]) by HUB02.uva.nl ([2002:9232:6ce7::9232:6ce7]) with mapi id 14.03.0301.000; Wed, 29 Jun 2016 11:26:25 +0200 Thread-Topic: [NTG-context] smallcaps Thread-Index: AQHR0d2uOF1Ra/bC9E2XsXh4sfFj5qAABA+AgAAHSgA= In-Reply-To: <57738E23.9080908@gmail.com> Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [84.106.134.200] x-endpointsecurity-0xde81-ev: v:6.2.7.719, d:out, a:y, w:t, t:15, sv:1467176487, ts:1467192385 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:95270 Archived-At: --===============2781828323813411945== Content-Language: en-US Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_DC532BC1A25C4A7CA9663C0BF25A67EFuvanl_" --_000_DC532BC1A25C4A7CA9663C0BF25A67EFuvanl_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks. For those who are curious as to how I became confused about the uppercase-l= owercase for smallcaps: look at session "803 Typography and Fonts" in Apple= 's WWDC2016 conference, just after 23 minutes and you will understand. Hans van der Meer On 29 Jun 2016, at 11:00, Wolfgang Schuster > wrote: dr. Hans van der Meer 29. Juni 2016 um 10:05 I do not understand the behaviour of the \sc macro. I thought smallcaps wou= ld turn out to be smaller than capitals. But I see no difference between th= em except a subtle difference in letterspacing. Am I doing something wrong = here? Hans van der Meer Minimal example and output: \setuppapersize[A5][A5] \starttext \setupbodyfont[lmodern] lmodern: uppercase smallcaps\blank \setupbodyfont[cambria] cambria: uppercase smallcaps\blank \LuaTeX-version=3D0.\the\luatexversion\crlf \ConTeXt-version=3D\contextversion\crlf \stoptext Smallcaps changes only the layout of lowercase letters but some fonts let y= ou also change uppercase letters. In the example below you can see how you can change uppercase and lowercase= letter with the smcp and c2sc features. \definefontfeature[f:smcp][smcp=3Dyes] \definefontfeature[f:c2sc][c2sc=3Dyes] \setupbodyfont[pagella] \starttext An easy and breezy Sunday morning. {\feature[+][f:smcp]An easy and breezy Sunday morning.} {\feature[+][f:c2sc]An easy and breezy Sunday morning.} {\feature[+][f:c2sc,f:smcp]An easy and breezy Sunday morning.} \stoptext Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.n= l/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ --_000_DC532BC1A25C4A7CA9663C0BF25A67EFuvanl_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-ID: Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks.

For those who are curious as to how I became confused about= the uppercase-lowercase for smallcaps: look at session "803 Typograph= y and Fonts" in Apple's WWDC2016 conference, just after 23 minutes and= you will understand.

Hans van der Meer




On 29 Jun 2016, at 11:00, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:

 
29. Juni 2016 um 10:05
I do not understand the behaviour of the \sc macro. I thoug= ht smallcaps would turn out to be smaller than capitals. But I see no diffe= rence between them except a subtle difference in letterspacing. Am I doing = something wrong here?

Hans van der Meer

Minimal example and output:

\setuppapersize[A5][A5]
\starttext
\setupbodyfont[lmodern]
lmodern: uppercase <ABC-{\sc ABC}> smallcaps\blank
\setupbodyfont[cambria]
cambria: uppercase <ABC-{\sc ABC}> smallcaps\blank
\LuaTeX-version=3D0.\the\luatexversion\crlf
\ConTeXt-version=3D\contextversion\crlf
\stoptext
Smallcaps changes only the layout of lowercase letters but some fonts let you also c= hange uppercase letters.

In the example below you can see how you can change uppercase and lowercase l= etter with the smcp and c2sc features.

\definefontfeature[f:smcp][smcp=3Dyes]
\definefontfeature[f:c2sc][c2sc=3Dyes]

\setupbodyfont[pagella]

\starttext

An easy and breezy Sunday morning.

{\feature[+][f:smcp]An easy and breezy Sunday morning.}

{\feature[+][f:c2sc]An easy and breezy Sunday morning.}

{\feature[+][f:c2sc,f:smcp]An easy and breezy Sunday morning.}

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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