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* Re: Defining a command for enumeration+block
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@ 2010-11-20 21:24 ` Glen Callaghan
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From: Glen Callaghan @ 2010-11-20 21:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi Wolfgang,

With MkIV blocks are hidden by default while MkII prints them, add \keepblocks[Block]
to your document and the blocks will appear.

Using \keepblocks worked thanks.

Unfortunately, now the \reset command doesn't seem to work in mkiv (see attachment), but's ok in mkii.

Glen

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\defineblock[Block]
\defineenumeration[Enum][location=left,text=Test]
\setupblock[Block][before=\startEnum,after=\stopEnum]
\keepblocks[Block]

\starttext

\section{Use}

\useblocks[Block]
\reset[Enum]

\section{Define}

\beginBlock
jhdsa hdsfhj  lh dsfjh jkhasdf
sdakjhfsal sdkajhf kljsdh
\endBlock

\beginBlock
jhdsa hdsfhj  lh dsfjh jkhasdf
sdakjhfsal sdkajhf kljsdh fhlkjsad kah dkjh akjhd flkjs
lkjsad flkjh salkjhf asd
\endBlock

\stoptext


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* Re: Defining a command for enumeration+block
  2010-11-19 15:49   ` Wolfgang Schuster
@ 2010-11-19 17:11     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2010-11-19 17:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On 19-11-2010 4:49, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> With MkIV blocks are hidden by default while MkII prints them, add \keepblocks[Block]
> to your document and the blocks will appear. You can also use the same name for the
> blocks as you do use the enumerations, to allow this blocks use begin/end commands
> and not the usual start/stop commands.

or we can change the defaults to show them

Hans

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* Re: Defining a command for enumeration+block
  2010-11-19  4:43 ` Glen Callaghan
@ 2010-11-19 15:49   ` Wolfgang Schuster
  2010-11-19 17:11     ` Hans Hagen
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-11-19 15:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 19.11.2010 um 05:43 schrieb Glen Callaghan:

> 
> 
>>> Interestingly though, the formatting is slightly different between defining the blocks and using (recalling) the blocks. When I recall the blocks, the text appears a line below the enumeration labels (see example + attachment below).
>> 
>> I can reproduce this but for mkiv (context <file>) the output in both cases is the same.
> 
> Wolfgang
> 
> Weird... when I try it here on mkiv, there is no output where I define the blocks (see attachment).  
> 
> I'm trying this on the "current" mimimals (downloaded today) on mac os x (10.6.5).
> [LuaTeX beta-0.64.0-2010111215, ConTeXt  ver: 2010.07.30 11:35 MKIV  fmt: 2010.11.19]
> 
> Could this be some sort of bug?  Is there anything you'd like me to try.

With MkIV blocks are hidden by default while MkII prints them, add \keepblocks[Block]
to your document and the blocks will appear. You can also use the same name for the
blocks as you do use the enumerations, to allow this blocks use begin/end commands
and not the usual start/stop commands.

Wolfgang



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* Re: Defining a command for enumeration+block
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@ 2010-11-19  4:43 ` Glen Callaghan
  2010-11-19 15:49   ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Glen Callaghan @ 2010-11-19  4:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Interestingly though, the formatting is slightly different between defining the blocks and using (recalling) the blocks. When I recall the blocks, the text appears a line below the enumeration labels (see example + attachment below).

I can reproduce this but for mkiv (context <file>) the output in both cases is the same.

Wolfgang

Weird... when I try it here on mkiv, there is no output where I define the blocks (see attachment).

I'm trying this on the "current" mimimals (downloaded today) on mac os x (10.6.5).
[LuaTeX beta-0.64.0-2010111215, ConTeXt  ver: 2010.07.30 11:35 MKIV  fmt: 2010.11.19]

Could this be some sort of bug?  Is there anything you'd like me to try.

thanks
Glen

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* Re: Defining a command for enumeration+block
  2010-11-18 21:44 ` Glen Callaghan
@ 2010-11-18 22:13   ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-11-18 22:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 18.11.2010 um 22:44 schrieb Glen Callaghan:

> Interestingly though, the formatting is slightly different between defining the blocks and using (recalling) the blocks.  When I recall the blocks, the text appears a line below the enumeration labels (see example + attachment below).

I can reproduce this but for mkiv (context <file>) the output in both cases is the same.

Wolfgang
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* Re: Defining a command for enumeration+block
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@ 2010-11-18 21:44 ` Glen Callaghan
  2010-11-18 22:13   ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Glen Callaghan @ 2010-11-18 21:44 UTC (permalink / raw)
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> You can?t use blocks within other commands but when you use only enumerations in your block you can simplify your code a little bit.
> 
> \defineblock[Block]
> \defineenumeration[Enum][location=left,text=Test]
> 
> \setupblock[Block][before=\startEnum,after=\stopEnum]


Thanks very much Wolfgang, that seems to work well enough for me.

Interestingly though, the formatting is slightly different between defining the blocks and using (recalling) the blocks.  When I recall the blocks, the text appears a line below the enumeration labels (see example + attachment below).


I had always assumed that \define just did a text replacement (like in c).... looks like I was wrong. 

How does \define actually work?  Could you point me towards some documentation.... I'm struggling to find anything about \define.

thanks
Glen

-------------
\defineblock[Block]
\defineenumeration[Enum][location=left,text=Test] 
\setupblock[Block][before=\startEnum,after=\stopEnum]

\starttext

\section{Use}

	\useblocks[Block]
	\reset[Enum]

\section{Define}

	\beginBlock 
	jhdsa hdsfhj  lh dsfjh jkhasdf
	sdakjhfsal sdkajhf kljsdh
	\endBlock 
	
	\beginBlock 
	jhdsa hdsfhj  lh dsfjh jkhasdf
	sdakjhfsal sdkajhf kljsdh fhlkjsad kah dkjh akjhd flkjs 
	lkjsad flkjh salkjhf asd
	\endBlock 

\stoptext




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* Re: Defining a command for enumeration+block
  2010-11-18 11:15 Glen Callaghan
@ 2010-11-18 18:05 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Wolfgang Schuster @ 2010-11-18 18:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Am 18.11.2010 um 12:15 schrieb Glen Callaghan:

> Hello,
> 
> I'm having some problems using blocks and enumeration together.
> 
> I can get it to work using something like this (see complete minimal example further down):
> 
> 	\beginBlock 
> 	\startEnum 
> 	Some text A
> 	\stopEnum 
> 	\endBlock 
> 
> But it doesn't seem to work if I try to define a command (macro?) to keep my source file a bit tidier.

You can’t use blocks within other commands but when you use only enumerations in your block you can simplify your code a little bit.

\defineblock[Block]
\defineenumeration[Enum][location=left,text=Test] 

\setupblock[Block][before=\startEnum,after=\stopEnum]

\starttext

\beginBlock
Some text A
\endBlock

\stoptext

Wolfgang

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* Defining a command for enumeration+block
@ 2010-11-18 11:15 Glen Callaghan
  2010-11-18 18:05 ` Wolfgang Schuster
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From: Glen Callaghan @ 2010-11-18 11:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hello,

I'm having some problems using blocks and enumeration together.

I can get it to work using something like this (see complete minimal example further down):

	\beginBlock 
	\startEnum 
	Some text A
	\stopEnum 
	\endBlock 

But it doesn't seem to work if I try to define a command (macro?) to keep my source file a bit tidier.

	\define[1]\Revs{
		\beginBlock 
		\startEnum 
				#1
		\stopEnum
		\endBlock
	}

	\Revs{Missing Text B}

I don't get any output from the call \Revs.  No doubt I'm doing something silly...... 

I've also noticed that it breaks if I put the \beginBlock \startEnum commands on the same line, as in:

	\beginBlock \startEnum 
	Some text A
	\stopEnum \endBlock 


I've been trying this on TeX Live 2010.


thanks
Glen

 ---------

\defineblock[Block]
\defineenumeration[Enum][location=left,text=Test] 

\define[1]\Revs{
	\beginBlock 
	\startEnum 
			#1
	\stopEnum
	\endBlock
}

\starttext

\section{Use}
\useblocks[Block]
\reset[Enum]


\section{Define}

\beginBlock 
\startEnum 
Some text A
\stopEnum 
\endBlock 

\Revs{Missing Text B}

\stoptext

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