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Here are what I've found most useful: 1. In my TeXLive 2011, there is texlive/2011/texmf-dist/doc/context/manuals/reference/en/contextref.pdf, dated July 2011 and unfinished. (The change to MKIV is immense and has outpaced the documentation.) 2. There is the wiki, which has some more current information about commands as well as gaps: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Main_Page 3. And then there is the source, which has some helpful comments in it. The explanation of the system macros, http://tex.aanhet.net/context/syst-gen-doc.pdf, has been helpful in many ways, including guessing at what the source is about. 4. This mailing list. Aside from these, some things particularly related to my interests (tables, XML) have been helpful. If you're interested in using MetaPost for graphics, there's John Hobby's MetaPost manual and Hans Hagen's ConTeXt-related Metafun manual (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Metapost). If you're interested in using Lua, see the LuaTeX manual and ConTeXt interface to Lua (http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Lua) as well as the Lua manual (lua.org). Hope that helps, Michael On Jul 15, 2012, at 1:04 PM, john Culleton wrote: > Returning after a long absence... > > Downloaded a fistful of manuals, concentrating on MKIV. One of > these lists commands, and is dated 2012 which is promising. Many > of these commands are not included in "Context, The Manual". So > is there a manual or guide (or multiples) that expains these new > commands? > > Let me put it a different way. If a person familiar with TeX but > not Context wanted to use MKIV what documents beyond "Context > the Manual" would that person need to understand and use Context > for ordinary documents (like a book on another software project)? > > I use TexLive 2011 on a Slackware Linux platform. > -- > John Culleton > > ___________________________________________________________________________________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___________________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________ This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. 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