caption setup

caption setup

[Csikos Bela]

Hello:

I have to setup caption formatting for Hungarian.
In Hungarian I have to write "#. figure." instead of "Figure #:"
The exact word for "figure" is "ábra", so what I want exactly is:
"# ábra.", eg "1. ábra".
How can I do it? (If I set the document language to Hungarian, the
word "ábra" is shown correctly but the order is not correct; I get ,. ábra:#.)

Another question: for caption text I want it to be justified and the last line of the caption
centered. How can I do that?

Thanks,

bcsikos



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Re: caption setup

[Otared Kavian]

Hi,

Maybe something like the following gives what you want:

	\setupcaption[figure][numberstopper={ ábra.}]
	\setuplabeltext[figure={}]

However I don’t know how you would like the reference to a figure appear in the text: maybe the above solution doesn’t give what you want, and so there is a need to setup alos the referencing commands.

Best regards: OK

> On 09 Apr 2015, at 00:13, Csikos Bela <bcsikos425@freemail.hu> wrote:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I have to setup caption formatting for Hungarian.
> In Hungarian I have to write "#. figure." instead of "Figure #:"
> The exact word for "figure" is "ábra", so what I want exactly is:
> "# ábra.", eg "1. ábra".
> How can I do it? (If I set the document language to Hungarian, the
> word "ábra" is shown correctly but the order is not correct; I get ,. ábra:#.)
> 
> Another question: for caption text I want it to be justified and the last line of the caption
> centered. How can I do that?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> bcsikos
> 
> 
> 
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Re: caption setup

[Wolfgang Schuster]

> Am 09.04.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Csikos Bela <bcsikos425@freemail.hu>:
> 
> Hello:
> 
> I have to setup caption formatting for Hungarian.
> In Hungarian I have to write "#. figure." instead of "Figure #:"
> The exact word for "figure" is "ábra", so what I want exactly is:
> "# ábra.", eg "1. ábra".
> How can I do it? (If I set the document language to Hungarian, the
> word "ábra" is shown correctly but the order is not correct; I get ,. ábra:#.)

Until the labels for hungarian are fixed you can use the \setuplabeltext command
to set the right labels.

> Another question: for caption text I want it to be justified and the last line of the caption
> centered. How can I do that?

\useMPlibrary[dum]

\mainlanguage[hu]

\setupcaption[figure][align=last,numberstopper=.]

\setuplabeltext[hu][figure={, ábra}]

\starttext

\startplacefigure[title=\input{ward}]
	\externalfigure[dummy]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext

Wolfgang
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Re: caption setup

[Csikos Bela]

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Wolfgang Schuster írta:
>
>> Am 09.04.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Csikos Bela:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> I have to setup caption formatting for Hungarian.
>> In Hungarian I have to write "#. figure." instead of "Figure #:"
>> The exact word for "figure" is "ábra", so what I want exactly is:
>> "# ábra.", eg "1. ábra".
>> How can I do it? (If I set the document language to Hungarian, the
>> word "ábra" is shown correctly but the order is not correct; I get ,. ábra:#.)
>
>Until the labels for hungarian are fixed you can use the \setuplabeltext command
>to set the right labels.
>
>> Another question: for caption text I want it to be justified and the last line of the caption
>> centered. How can I do that?
>
>\useMPlibrary[dum]
>
>\mainlanguage[hu]
>
>\setupcaption[figure][align=last,numberstopper=.]
>
>\setuplabeltext[hu][figure={, ábra}]
>
>\starttext
>
>\startplacefigure[title=\input{ward}]
>	\externalfigure[dummy]
>\stopplacefigure
>
>\stoptext
>
>Wolfgang

Wolfgang, Otared:

Thank you both for your suggestions. Unfortunately the caption modification works only partially. I could not make both the caption labels and the references look correct.

When I use Wolfgang's example, I get the following: attachment file caption-example-2.pdf.

I also tried different settings for caption label, here is the code:

------------------------------------------------

\starttext

\setupcaption[figure][numberstopper={. ábra.}]
\setuplabeltext[figure={}]

Code:

\verbatim{\setupcaption[figure][numberstopper={. ábra.}]} \par
\verbatim{\setuplabeltext[figure={}]}

Result:

Reference to figure 1 (\in{figure}[figure-1])

\placefigure[][figure-1]{This is the caption}{\framed{Some figure}}

\hairline

\setupcaption[figure][suffix={. ábra},numberstopper={.}]
\setuplabeltext[figure={}]

Code:

\verbatim{\setupcaption[figure][suffix={. ábra},numberstopper={.}]} \par
\verbatim{\setuplabeltext[figure={}]}

Result:

Reference to figure 2 (\in{figure}[figure-2])

\placefigure[][figure-2]{This is the caption}{\framed{Another figure}}

\hairline

The caption should be: ``1. ábra. This is the caption''

The reference should be: ``(1. ábra)'' -- NO period after ``ábra'', without the word ``figure''.

\stoptext

------------------------------------------------------------------------

I attach the generated pdf output: caption-example.pdf

Unfortunately none of the above code variants gives the correct result.
Despite of the bad "wording" I don't understand why numberstopper (.)
doesn't appear after suffix (. ábra) in figure 2.

Any way to fix these?

The alignment=last option works. (This option is not mentioned among the options at the contextgarden wiki site, http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupcaptions.)

Thanks,

bcsikos

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Re: caption setup

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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> Am 09.04.2015 um 13:14 schrieb Csikos Bela <bcsikos425@freemail.hu>:
> 
> Wolfgang Schuster írta:
>> 
>>> Am 09.04.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Csikos Bela:
>>> 
>>> Hello:
>>> 
>>> I have to setup caption formatting for Hungarian.
>>> In Hungarian I have to write "#. figure." instead of "Figure #:"
>>> The exact word for "figure" is "ábra", so what I want exactly is:
>>> "# ábra.", eg "1. ábra".
>>> How can I do it? (If I set the document language to Hungarian, the
>>> word "ábra" is shown correctly but the order is not correct; I get ,. ábra:#.)
>> 
>> Until the labels for hungarian are fixed you can use the \setuplabeltext command
>> to set the right labels.
>> 
>>> Another question: for caption text I want it to be justified and the last line of the caption
>>> centered. How can I do that?
>> 
>> \useMPlibrary[dum]
>> 
>> \mainlanguage[hu]
>> 
>> \setupcaption[figure][align=last,numberstopper=.]
>> 
>> \setuplabeltext[hu][figure={, ábra}]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> 
>> \startplacefigure[title=\input{ward}]
>> 	\externalfigure[dummy]
>> \stopplacefigure
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> Wolfgang
> 
> Wolfgang, Otared:
> 
> Thank you both for your suggestions. Unfortunately the caption modification works only partially. I could not make both the caption labels and the references look correct.
> 
> When I use Wolfgang's example, I get the following: attachment file caption-example-2.pdf.
> 
> I also tried different settings for caption label, here is the code:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \setupcaption[figure][numberstopper={. ábra.}]
> \setuplabeltext[figure={}]
> 
> Code:
> 
> \verbatim{\setupcaption[figure][numberstopper={. ábra.}]} \par
> \verbatim{\setuplabeltext[figure={}]}
> 
> Result:
> 
> Reference to figure 1 (\in{figure}[figure-1])
> 
> \placefigure[][figure-1]{This is the caption}{\framed{Some figure}}
> 
> \hairline
> 
> \setupcaption[figure][suffix={. ábra},numberstopper={.}]
> \setuplabeltext[figure={}]
> 
> Code:
> 
> \verbatim{\setupcaption[figure][suffix={. ábra},numberstopper={.}]} \par
> \verbatim{\setuplabeltext[figure={}]}
> 
> Result:
> 
> Reference to figure 2 (\in{figure}[figure-2])
> 
> \placefigure[][figure-2]{This is the caption}{\framed{Another figure}}
> 
> \hairline
> 
> The caption should be: ``1. ábra. This is the caption''
> 
> The reference should be: ``(1. ábra)'' -- NO period after ``ábra'', without the word ``figure''.
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I attach the generated pdf output: caption-example.pdf
> 
> Unfortunately none of the above code variants gives the correct result.
> Despite of the bad "wording" I don't understand why numberstopper (.)
> doesn't appear after suffix (. ábra) in figure 2.
> 
> Any way to fix these?

The \setupcaption command needs a numbercommand key which can be used to set

   \setupcaption[numbercommand=\groupedcommand{}{…}]

> The alignment=last option works. (This option is not mentioned among the options at the contextgarden wiki site, http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupcaptions.)

Take a look at the \setupalign page: http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupalign <http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/setupalign>

Wolfgang

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Re: caption setup

[Wolfgang Schuster]

> Am 09.04.2015 um 13:14 schrieb Csikos Bela <bcsikos425@freemail.hu>:
> 
> Wolfgang Schuster írta:
>> 
>>> Am 09.04.2015 um 00:13 schrieb Csikos Bela:
>>> 
>>> Hello:
>>> 
>>> I have to setup caption formatting for Hungarian.
>>> In Hungarian I have to write "#. figure." instead of "Figure #:"
>>> The exact word for "figure" is "ábra", so what I want exactly is:
>>> "# ábra.", eg "1. ábra".
>>> How can I do it? (If I set the document language to Hungarian, the
>>> word "ábra" is shown correctly but the order is not correct; I get ,. ábra:#.)
>> 
>> Until the labels for hungarian are fixed you can use the \setuplabeltext command
>> to set the right labels.
>> 
>>> Another question: for caption text I want it to be justified and the last line of the caption
>>> centered. How can I do that?
>> 
>> \useMPlibrary[dum]
>> 
>> \mainlanguage[hu]
>> 
>> \setupcaption[figure][align=last,numberstopper=.]
>> 
>> \setuplabeltext[hu][figure={, ábra}]
>> 
>> \starttext
>> 
>> \startplacefigure[title=\input{ward}]
>> 	\externalfigure[dummy]
>> \stopplacefigure
>> 
>> \stoptext
>> 
>> Wolfgang
> 
> Wolfgang, Otared:
> 
> Thank you both for your suggestions. Unfortunately the caption modification works only partially. I could not make both the caption labels and the references look correct.
> 
> When I use Wolfgang's example, I get the following: attachment file caption-example-2.pdf.
> 
> I also tried different settings for caption label, here is the code:
> 
> ------------------------------------------------
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \setupcaption[figure][numberstopper={. ábra.}]
> \setuplabeltext[figure={}]
> 
> Code:
> 
> \verbatim{\setupcaption[figure][numberstopper={. ábra.}]} \par
> \verbatim{\setuplabeltext[figure={}]}
> 
> Result:
> 
> Reference to figure 1 (\in{figure}[figure-1])
> 
> \placefigure[][figure-1]{This is the caption}{\framed{Some figure}}
> 
> \hairline
> 
> \setupcaption[figure][suffix={. ábra},numberstopper={.}]
> \setuplabeltext[figure={}]
> 
> Code:
> 
> \verbatim{\setupcaption[figure][suffix={. ábra},numberstopper={.}]} \par
> \verbatim{\setuplabeltext[figure={}]}
> 
> Result:
> 
> Reference to figure 2 (\in{figure}[figure-2])
> 
> \placefigure[][figure-2]{This is the caption}{\framed{Another figure}}
> 
> \hairline
> 
> The caption should be: ``1. ábra. This is the caption''
> 
> The reference should be: ``(1. ábra)'' -- NO period after ``ábra'', without the word ``figure''.
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> I attach the generated pdf output: caption-example.pdf
> 
> Unfortunately none of the above code variants gives the correct result.
> Despite of the bad "wording" I don't understand why numberstopper (.)
> doesn't appear after suffix (. ábra) in figure 2.
> 
> Any way to fix these?

Method 1 (set the left and right texts for the reference with the \in command):

%%%% begin example
\useMPlibrary[dum]

\mainlanguage[hu]

\setuplabeltext [hu] [figure={, ábra.}]

\setupcaption[figure][numberstopper=.]

\definereferenceformat[infigure][label=figurereference]

\starttext

\startplacefigure[reference=fig:dummy,title=Dummy figure]
	\externalfigure[dummy]
\stopplacefigure

See figure~1 (\in{}{ ábra}[fig:dummy]).

\stoptext
%%%% end example


Method 2 (create your own reference command which uses a label without the period at the end):

%%%% begin example
\useMPlibrary[dum]

\mainlanguage[hu]

\setuplabeltext [hu]          [figure={, ábra.}]
\setuplabeltext [hu] [figurereference={, ábra}]

\setupcaption[figure][numberstopper=.]

\definereferenceformat[infigure][label=figurereference]

\starttext

\startplacefigure[reference=fig:dummy,title=Dummy figure]
	\externalfigure[dummy]
\stopplacefigure

See figure~1 (\infigure[fig:dummy]).

\stoptext
%%%% end example


BTW: The plain TeX method for quotation marks (``…’’) doesn’t work with MkIV, use correct quotation marks (“…”) or the \quotation command (\quotation{…}).

Wolfgang
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Re: caption setup

[Csikos Bela]

Wolfgang Schuster írta:

LONG CUT, see previous messages

Thanks you, finally I chose the following setup:

% begin code
\mainlanguage[hu]
\setuplabeltext[hu][figure={,. ábra.}]
\setupcaption[figure][numberstopper=]
\definereferenceformat[infigure][label=figurereference]

\starttext

placefigure[][figure-1]{Caption 1}{figure1}

placefigure[][figure-2]{Caption 2}{figure2}

\in[figure-1]. ábra and \in[figure-2]/A ábrán

\stoptext
% end code

In this case the \in[] command only inserts the pure number without punctuation and
any additional text. I add the punctuation and additional text manually in the text.


>\setuplabeltext [hu] [figure={, ábra.}]

What is the function of the comma exactly? It isn't shown in the output.


>BTW: The plain TeX method for quotation marks (``…’’) doesn’t work with MkIV, use correct quotation marks (“…”) or the \quotation command (\quotation{…}).

It's a pity. This is a very nice feature of tex.

Wolfgang, thank you for your help. Probably I return soon with other questions because I'm learnig context.

bcsikos
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