From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/39741 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Valle Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: New Member Introductory Rant Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:56:53 +0200 Message-ID: References: <47EF48DA.3070200@studiochango.com> <6faad9f00803300750r79ddc5aclcea203d33f2e8836@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0985421181==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1206917879 7287 80.91.229.12 (30 Mar 2008 22:57:59 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 22:57:59 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Mar 31 00:58:29 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Jg6Ts-0001Mw-Aw for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:58:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E0E821FC5A; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:57:46 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11018-06; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:57:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 287EE1FBA8; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:57:32 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3A8531FB5B for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:57:30 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 11527-03-14 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:57:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from pianeta.di.unito.it (pianeta.di.unito.it [130.192.156.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 64A641FBA8 for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:57:24 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d81-211-247-183.cust.tele2.it [81.211.247.183]) by pianeta.di.unito.it (INFO-DIP) with ESMTP id m2UMuxEd022596 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO userCertificateDN= AuthenticatedUser=valle ) for ; Mon, 31 Mar 2008 00:56:59 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: <6faad9f00803300750r79ddc5aclcea203d33f2e8836@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-dipinfo-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Department of Computer Science technical staff for more information X-AntiVirus: Scanned for viruses by VirusFinder @2001-tecnici@di.unito.it - Email Clean X-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-102.498, required 3.5, autolearn=not spam, AUTHENTICATEDUSER -100.00, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-MailScanner-From: valle@di.unito.it X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:39741 Archived-At: --===============0985421181== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-4-977347391 --Apple-Mail-4-977347391 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > By reading the source :) > Joking of course ... but not entirely. > Yes, that's an important point. Many times the options I'm searching =20 for are not documented: so, or I'm able to find an example in wiki/=20 mailing list or probably it would be easy to take a look to the =20 sources, I guess. I know it's far from being polite, but really I'd like to have a "How-=20= to-find-your-way-thru-the-source Tutorial for total newbie". On my =20 mac, they are hidden: so, first step, change your visualization =20 preferences thru a googled script form Terminal. Second, the (in)=20 famous tex tree structure is far from being clear for me. Third, and =20 most important, how to extract infos from sources? This is my main (only) frustration with ConTeXt, Just 2c Best -a- -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who =20= doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this =20 guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with =20 me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss =20 Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) --Apple-Mail-4-977347391 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

By reading the source :)
Joking of course ... but not entirely.

=

This is my main (only) frustration = with ConTeXt,

Just = 2c

Best

-a-
--= ------------------------------------------------
Andrea = Valle
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CIRMA - DAMS
Universit=E0 degli Studi di = Torino
= --------------------------------------------------


I did this interview where I just = mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in = university, right? I was in this strip = club=A0givi= ng this guy a lap dance=A0and all he wanted to do was to = discuss Foucault with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little = dance, or I can discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much = information.
(Annabel = Chong)
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andre= a/
= --------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as = seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. = F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. = F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on = noise)





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