From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/41676 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Valle Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: distro info Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:48:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <6faad9f00806100858m332b0c18w1726368830a29a3c@mail.gmail.com> <46D24799-264A-4AFE-9089-A63F4226985C@mpq.mpg.de> <8687593C-CFC0-4F6A-9EA2-091FC7CBB2CC@di.unito.it> <6faad9f00806110905q32b9c142t6af44f2edf85adbf@mail.gmail.com> <4F0FF6A1-CBA4-455D-80A5-785E59607044@di.unito.it> <181B45FF-223C-4CBB-8909-F4C9BB2E0C5B@fiee.net> <653FF68A-0886-4ECA-A87C-36D95138437A@uni-bonn.de> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v753) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0452950960==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1213452983 22164 80.91.229.12 (14 Jun 2008 14:16:23 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:16:23 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sat Jun 14 16:17:06 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1K7WYw-00045G-Rk for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:17:03 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 9EA4D200F9; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:16:12 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25114-01-58; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 16:15:29 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DD55C1FE4F; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:10:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id BAE3B1FE4D for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:10:00 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 17397-08-52 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 15:09:13 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from pianeta.di.unito.it (pianeta.di.unito.it [130.192.156.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 381F81FE49 for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:48:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d81-211-247-143.cust.tele2.it [81.211.247.143]) by pianeta.di.unito.it (INFO-DIP) with ESMTP id m5EBm7uL014720 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO userCertificateDN= AuthenticatedUser=valle ) for ; Sat, 14 Jun 2008 13:48:08 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.753) X-dipinfo-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Department of Computer Science technical staff for more information X-AntiVirus: Scanned for viruses by VirusFinder @2001-tecnici@di.unito.it - Email Clean X-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-102.498, required 3.5, autolearn=not spam, AUTHENTICATEDUSER -100.00, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, RDNS_DYNAMIC 0.10) X-MailScanner-From: valle@di.unito.it X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:41676 Archived-At: --===============0452950960== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-106-1061165516 --Apple-Mail-106-1061165516 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed > > Actually, I strongly disagree with the opinion that the only way to > properly interact with TeX is via the command line. > > In fact you gain a lot when trying to > track down a problem ... > > Furthermore, in my humble opinion interaction with TeX should > concentrate on programming the actual typesettin You took the words out of my mouth :-) Jokes apart, I think it's evident that there are two approaches to =20 deal with a distro/application. I'm just defending my position, without implying that the other one =20 is inferior/negative/etc. I just want to point out that to have a context distro wrapped into a =20= mac app (i.e. autonomous, self-contained) will make the life easier for many users. (So, thanks Oliver) This does not prevent them to have an experimental, on-the-edge version. Best -a- -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> http://www.myspace.com/andreavalle --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- " Think of it as seasoning . noise [salt] is boring . F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring . F(noise, blah) can be really tasty " (Ken Perlin on noise) --Apple-Mail-106-1061165516 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

Actually, I strongly disagree with the opinion that = the only way to =A0
properly interact with TeX is via the command = line.

In fact you gain a lot when = trying to =A0
track down a problem = ...
Furthermore, in my humble opinion interaction with = TeX should =A0
concentrate on programming the actual = typesettin

You took = the words out of my mouth
:-)

Jokes apart, = I think it's evident that there are two approaches to deal with a = distro/application.
I'm just defending my = position, without implying that the other one is = inferior/negative/etc.

I just want to point out that to have a context = distro wrapped into a mac app (i.e. autonomous, = self-contained)
will make the life easier for = many users. =A0(So, thanks Oliver)
This does not = prevent them to have an experimental, on-the-edge = version.

Best

-a-
<= br>


http://www.cirma.unito.it/andre= a/
= --------------------------------------------------


"
Think of it as = seasoning
. noise [salt] is boring
. = F(blah) [food without salt] can be boring
. = F(noise, blah) can be really tasty
"
(Ken Perlin on = noise)





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