Re: TeX Live 7

Re: TeX Live 7

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

Hallo!

> >After changing my outofthebox debian-TeX to TeX Live 7 I have the
following
> >problem:
> >
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
-
> >
> >  TeXExec 2.8 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002
> 
> 
> (1) download the latest version from our site (show-fil.pdf->archive)

ok!
> 
> (2) if texexec 3.2 is not found, make sure that you have it in your path 
> (copy if needed)

ok!

> 
> (3) if you still have mem problems, locate texmf.cnf (kpsewhich ...) and 
> increase the context mem values
> 
> Hans

I still have the problem with the following:
-----------------simple.tex---------------------------------
\starttext
Test.
\stoptext
------------------------------------------------------------
TeXExec 3.2 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2003

            executable : pdfetex
                format : cont-en
             inputfile : simple
                output : standard
             interface : en
          current mode : none
               TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
fatal: memory exhausted (xmalloc of 60000008 bytes).

              run time : 1 seconds

        total run time : 4 seconds
---------------------------------------------------------------
Should I really increase memory to run an one-word job?
There must be an other error.

Wolfgang

Re: TeX Live 7

[Hans Hagen]

At 01:32 16/04/2003 +0200, you wrote:

>This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
>fatal: memory exhausted (xmalloc of 60000008 bytes).
>
>               run time : 1 seconds
>
>         total run time : 4 seconds
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>Should I really increase memory to run an one-word job?
>There must be an other error.

this is an OS problem, if you run some old windows (95/98), make sure that 
there is enough non fragemented disk space left on your c drive (or the 
disk where the virtual mem file resides); it may help to increase your 
virtual mem; tex needs some 16-32 M per job (kind of fixed)

Hans

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Re: TeX Live 7

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

> run
> 
>    kpsewhich texmf.cnf
> 
> locate the context section
> 
> decrease some mem values (main mem for instance)
> 
> regenerate formats with texexec --make (optionally --alone)
> 
> see if there's a change in the malloc message
> 
> Hans

ok!

If I decrease main_memory from 1500000 to 1000000
then pdfetex needs only 56000008 Bytes (60000008 bevor)
this is a factor 8!

Why 8? If main_memory is given in words (longwords)  I would expect a
factor 2 (4), but not 8!
ok, let it be quadwords!

Then I decreased further mem_bot from 4000000 to 3000000
pdfetex now needs 48000008 Bytes
this is a factor 8 too!

The remaining 48000008 Bytes divided by 8 means 6000000 words? I have to
set everything to zero then!?

It looks as if there is no memory at all!

In what units are all the memory entrys given?

???

Wolfgang

Re: TeX Live 7

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

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 > > >This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C
> >7.3.7x)
> > > >fatal: memory exhausted (xmalloc of 60000008 bytes).
> > > >---------------------------------------------------------------
> > > >Should I really increase memory to run an one-word job?
> > > >There must be an other error.
> > >
> > > this is an OS problem, if you run some old windows (95/98), make sure
> >that
> > > there is enough non fragemented disk space left on your c drive (or
the
> > > disk where the virtual mem file resides); it may help to increase
your
> > > virtual mem; tex needs some 16-32 M per job (kind of fixed)
> > >
> > > Hans
> >
> >I run tetex on linux (debian).
> >I have compared the memory settings in the context section of both TeX
Live
> >6 and 7, they are identical.
> >Do you have any ideas?
> 
> the message is not a tex one (say: too less font mem, or hash exceeded)
but 
> an operating system one; this may happen when you rmem settings in the 
> texmf.cnf file don't match  the values stored in the format file; did you

> regenerate the format?
> 
> i also wonder where the 60 meg of mem request comes from
> 
> Hans

I made the following little experiments with 'simple.tex':

------------------simple.tex----------------
\starttext
Test.
\stoptext
-------------------------------------------------

I hope, that the following command ist äquivalent to 'texexec simple'

> pdfetex --efmt cont-en simple

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
entering extended mode
(./simple.tex
Error: pdfetex (file pdftex.cfg): cannot open config file

(The former xmalloc-error is not reported, but 'pdftex.cfg' could not
opened!?)

> pdfetex

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
**\relax
entering extended mode
{/usr/TeX/texmf-var/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
*\end
No pages of output.
Transcript written on texput.log.

(Here, 'pdftex.cfg' is found and opened!! )

I created an further pdftedx.cfg in my user-tree and I get:

> pdfetex --efmt cont-en simple

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
entering extended mode
(./simple.tex
Error: pdfetex (file pdftex.cfg): cannot open config file

> pdfetex

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
**\relax
entering extended mode
{/home/wwl/texmf/pdftex/config/pdftex.cfg}
*\end
No pages of output.
Transcript written on texput.log.

Is this ok or wrong? Is this the same error as bevor or a second error?
Obviously this is format dependend. 

The format is newly made with: texexec --make en
The new format is written to /usr/TeX/texmf-var/web2c/cont-en.efmt
Timestamp looks ok!

Wolfgang

Re: TeX Live 7

[Hans Hagen]

At 01:12 18/04/2003 +0200, you wrote:

>The format is newly made with: texexec --make en
>The new format is written to /usr/TeX/texmf-var/web2c/cont-en.efmt
>Timestamp looks ok!

run

   kpsewhich texmf.cnf

locate the context section

decrease some mem values (main mem for instance)

regenerate formats with texexec --make (optionally --alone)

see if there's a change in the malloc message

Hans
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Re: TeX Live 7

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

> >This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C
7.3.7x)
> >fatal: memory exhausted (xmalloc of 60000008 bytes).
> >---------------------------------------------------------------
> >Should I really increase memory to run an one-word job?
> >There must be an other error.
> 
> this is an OS problem, if you run some old windows (95/98), make sure
that 
> there is enough non fragemented disk space left on your c drive (or the 
> disk where the virtual mem file resides); it may help to increase your 
> virtual mem; tex needs some 16-32 M per job (kind of fixed)
> 
> Hans

I run tetex on linux (debian).
I have compared the memory settings in the context section of both TeX Live
6 and 7, they are identical.
Do you have any ideas?

Wolfgang

Re: TeX Live 7

[Hans Hagen]

At 00:54 17/04/2003 +0200, Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini wrote:
> > >This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C
>7.3.7x)
> > >fatal: memory exhausted (xmalloc of 60000008 bytes).
> > >---------------------------------------------------------------
> > >Should I really increase memory to run an one-word job?
> > >There must be an other error.
> >
> > this is an OS problem, if you run some old windows (95/98), make sure
>that
> > there is enough non fragemented disk space left on your c drive (or the
> > disk where the virtual mem file resides); it may help to increase your
> > virtual mem; tex needs some 16-32 M per job (kind of fixed)
> >
> > Hans
>
>I run tetex on linux (debian).
>I have compared the memory settings in the context section of both TeX Live
>6 and 7, they are identical.
>Do you have any ideas?

the message is not a tex one (say: too less font mem, or hash exceeded) but 
an operating system one; this may happen when you rmem settings in the 
texmf.cnf file don't match  the values stored in the format file; did you 
regenerate the format?

i also wonder where the 60 meg of mem request comes from

Hans
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Re: TeX Live 7

[Taco Hoekwater]

> >I run tetex on linux (debian).
> >I have compared the memory settings in the context section of both TeX Live
> >6 and 7, they are identical.
> >Do you have any ideas?

> i also wonder where the 60 meg of mem request comes from

Perhaps a broken PFB/TTF file?
Or a circularly defined VF?
Or a severely broken ls-R database?
Or an erronuous format file?

Running the executable under the debugger (gdb) will help to pinpoint
the problem in these cases (the backtrace should show you from where
xmalloc() was called).

Also, there might not even *be* a problem. One of the reasons
for malloc()'s failure can be the system-imposed limits on users
(try 'sh -c ulimit' on the shell prompt)


-- 
groeten,

Taco

Re: TeX Live 7

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

Hallo!


After changing my outofthebox debian-TeX to TeX Live 7 I have the following
problem:
 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

 TeXExec 2.8 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002

            executable : pdfetex
                format : cont-en
             inputfile : tst_005
                output : standard
             interface : en
          current mode : none
               TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
fatal: memory exhausted (xmalloc of 60000008 bytes).

              run time : 1 seconds

        total run time : 3 seconds
----------------------------------------------------------------------------


What is the Problem here?
Is this an aktuell pdfetex version?

Wolfgang

Re: TeX Live 7

[Patrick Gundlach]

"Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini" <wwl@musensturm.de> writes:

Hi,

> This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
> fatal: memory exhausted (xmalloc of 60000008 bytes).


> What is the Problem here?
?? I don't know.

> Is this an aktuell pdfetex version?

it is not, but it is not too old. I think you better ask on a texlive
support mailinglist. 

Patrick

Re: TeX Live 7

[Hans Hagen]

At 22:53 09/04/2003 +0200, you wrote:
>Hallo!
>
>
>After changing my outofthebox debian-TeX to TeX Live 7 I have the following
>problem:
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>  TeXExec 2.8 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002


(1) download the latest version from our site (show-fil.pdf->archive)

(2) if texexec 3.2 is not found, make sure that you have it in your path 
(copy if needed)

(3) if you still have mem problems, locate texmf.cnf (kpsewhich ...) and 
increase the context mem values

Hans
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                       Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
  tel: +31 (0)38 477 53 69 | fax: +31 (0)38 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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                     documentation: http://www.pragma-ade.com/showcase.pdf
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

TeX Live 7

[Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini]

Hallo!

After changing my outofthebox debian-TeX to TeX Live 7 I have th following
problems:

Neither man-pages mor info-pages are installed. How can I do this?

Texexec'ing different testfiles results in:

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------------------
 TeXExec 2.8 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2002

            executable : pdfetex
                format : cont-en
             inputfile : tst_005
                output : standard
             interface : en
          current mode : none
               TeX run : 1

This is pdfeTeX, Version 3.14159-1.00b-pretest-20020211-2.1 (Web2C 7.3.7x)
fatal: memory exhausted (xmalloc of 60000008 bytes).

              run time : 1 seconds

        total run time : 3 seconds
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
-----------------------------------------
What is the Problem here?

Wolfgang

Re: TeX Live 7

[Bill McClain]

On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 00:00:38 +0200
"Wolfgang Werners-Lucchini" <wwl@musensturm.de> wrote:

> After changing my outofthebox debian-TeX to TeX Live 7 I have th
> following problems:
> 
> Neither man-pages mor info-pages are installed. How can I do this?

I just switched to TexLive also, from SuSE. I don't see instructions on
the CD for defining the man or info pages, but this is how I do it:

export MANPATH=$MANPATH:/usr/TeX/man
export INFOPATH=$INFOPATH:/usr/TeX/info

I added the above to my .bashrc file.

-Bill
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