RE: Help with LaTeX -> ConTeXt & book typesetting

["Ulrich Dirr" <ud@art-satz.de>]

Hi,

first, thank you very much for your help!

Hans Hagen wrote:
> Ulrich Dirr wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I'm recently trying to get ConTeXt typesetting my books like with LaTeX
>> before (or better). But I can't solve some problems ... Maybe someone
can
>> assist me? 
>> 
>> o How do I get the chapter number into the heading? I've tried
>>    \setupheader[before=\viii,style=normal]
>>    \setupheadertexts[chapter]
>>  but this only puts the chapter title into the heading
>> 
>> 
> \setupheadertexts[chapter][chapternumber]
> 
> of
> 
> \setupheadertexts[{\getmarking[chapternumber] --
> \getmarking[chapter]}]
> 
> etc etc
> 
>> o How can I get something similar to LaTeX?
>>    \fancyhead[C]{%
>>      {\sffamily\footnotesize
>>      \leftmark
>>      \pdef\next{\rightmark}%
>>      \ifx\next\empty\else\ \textbullet\ \rightmark\fi}%    }
>>  which will put the chapter mark centered in the headings, and if there
>>  is a sectionmark then a bullet & sectionmark too.
>> 
>> 
> something like: (setups are just a convenience)
> 
> \setupheadertexts [\setups{something}]
> 
> \startsetups something
> 
> \getmarking[chapter]
> 
> \doiftext{\getmarking[section]}{\enspace\symbol[1]\enspace}
> 
> \getmarking[section]
> 
> \stopsetups

That's great. Can I combine this setup with another one for left even &
right odd numbered pages? E.g.,

((PAGE 2))
<King>                 1 The King                   <>

((PAGE 3))
<>                     1 The King                   <Queen>

So that I can combine, say \setupheadertexts[][\KHead Queen][\KHead King][]
-- which actually are just two different ornaments -- with your definition
above for 'something'?

 
>> o How can I typeset the chapter title across both columns in a
two-column
>> setup? 
>> 
>> 
> hm
> 
> \chapter{xxx}
> 
> \startcolumns ... \stopcolumns
> 
> \chapter{yyy}
> 
> etc

Sorry I got confused; I was too much influenced by the LaTeX multicol
package where I have to say \begin{multicols}{2}[Spanning title] ...

 
>> o Is it possible to setup a project using only didot (or bp) point 
>>  measurements? How? Especially I want a interline space in dd or bp
which
>>  is flexible like \setupinterlinespace[line=1.25\bodyfontsize] but uses
>> dd or bp. 
>> 
>> 
> \starttext
> 
> \input ward
> 
> \setupinterlinespace[line=4.25\dimexpr(\bodyfontfactor dd)]
> 
> \input ward
> 
> \stoptext

My log file tells me
bodyfont       : bodyfont 6.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 6.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 4.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 4.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 7.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 7.6pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 5.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 5.7pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 11.3pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 11.3pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 9.5pt is defined (can better be done global)
bodyfont       : bodyfont 9.5pt is defined (can better be done global)

Given my definitions for HelveticaNeue -- and assuming they are alright --
where do I setup sizes, and especially in didot or big points?

 
>> o I've tried to setup the typographical correct quotation marks for
>>    german  in the file cont-sys.tex \setuplanguage
>>        [de]
>>        [leftquote=\rightsubguillemot,
>>         leftquotation=\rightguillemot,
>>         rightquote=\leftsubguillemot,
>>         rightquotation=\leftguillemot]
>>  When using it, e.g.,
>>    \quotation{all right \quote{there} we go}
>>  and using
>>    \showstruts
>>  I got marks at strange places
>>    |»all right |›there|‹ we go|«
>>  Should this be corrected somewhere?
>> 
> dunny, can you make a small test file (so that other german users can
test
> along?) 

Here:
\setupoutput [pdftex]
\input pdftexconfig
\enableregime[il1]
\mainlanguage[de]
\starttext
\showstruts
{\em Mühsal der Besten}

»Woran arbeiten Sie?« wurde Herr K. gefragt. Herr K. antwortete:
»Ich habe viel Mühe, ich bereite meinen nächsten Irrtum vor.« (B.
Brecht) ›Aber Hallo!‹ \quotation{all right \quote{there} we go}
\stoptext

 
>> o How do I get character protruding and font expansion? (I didn't find
>> the  latter in the manual) 
[...]
> so, associate a handling (see hand-* files) with a font (before it's
> used! else pdftex does ignore it)
> 
> but ... be prepared ... context is set up for the latest pdftex and
> there are some bugs in hz an desp when used with protruding (thanh is
> working on them and the previous code is used for testing)
> 
> you need a recent context in order to get the auto expansion done

This is pdfeTeXk, Version 3.141592-1.20a-rc4-2.1
ConTeXt  ver: 2004.8.15  fmt: 2004.9.8

(BTW I've already produced all expanded version with fontinst)
 
But this really produces super ugly results! The expanded fonts are in the
pdf but the line breaking is horrible. Probably I need at least rc7 or the
standalone version of fptex of Sept, 9th?


>> o Does there exist some support for RCS? In LaTeX I've used
>>    \RequirePackage[nofancy]{rcsinfo}
>>  and then I put in the page area of the crop marks:  on top
>>    'Art \& Satz \raise.5pt\hbox{\textbullet} Ulrich Dirr\hfill Seite
>>    »\thepage« \the\count1\ von \numpages'
>>  and on bottom
>>    <project specific info>\hfill \rcsInfoFile\
Rev.\rcsInfoRevision\hfill
>>    \the\day.\the\month.\the\year\ \printtime
>>  How can I put these information on the page? Should I use something you
>>  called 'Logo types' in the manual or something like layers?
>> 
>> 
> if you can give me specs (and an example) of what you need .. probably
> trivial to write
> 
> (there is some info mechanism where i then can hook it into)
> 
> \version[...]

Ok, I'll prepare an extra email.
 

>> o In lang-ger.tex you defined "ck with \discretionary{k-}{k}{ck}.
>>  But on the other hand dehyphn.tex is used which is the new german
>>  hyphenation table. Then 'ck' will no longer be hyphenated like k-k. Or 
>> am I missing something? 
>> 
>> 
> 
> hm, do you mean that i must omit teh "ck definition for de ?

If ConTeXt is using the new german spelling & hyphenation rules then:
*§108* If ss stands for ß, then it will be hyphenated s-s. E.g., Grüs-se
(instead of Grü-ße), heis-sen (instead of hei-ßen).
*§109* The connection of consonants ch, ck, and sch, and also in foreign
words with ph, rh, sh, and th will not be hyphenated in between if they
stands for a single sound. E.g., Bü-cher, Zu-cker, ba-cken, Fla-sche,
Ma-che-te, Pro-phet, Myr-rhe, Ca-shew-nuss, ka-tho-lisch.

Best regards,
Ulrich