From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/86269 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Keith J. 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Start another thread about the single prime as bug. Since this one is = marked as OT and others more more knowledgeable might not be reading this. regards Keith. Am 13.02.2014 um 14:40 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist : > On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Keith J. Schultz = wrote: > Hi Mikael, >=20 > Basically, I see your problem with ConTeXts handling of math as a = matter of taste! > That is you want LaTeX syntax.=20 >=20 > It is easy enough to get the results you want. >=20 > The only place where I see a bug is that a single prime is set larger = than multple > primes.=20 >=20 > regards > Keith >=20 > Hi Keith, >=20 > I do not agree with you. It is not so important to have the same = syntax as in LaTeX (exception: it would be nice to get double bars from = \| since it does not make sense to have \| yield a single bar since | = does), but to be able to write very common formulas (look at the example = with double derivative with respect to x in my examples above, and tell = me how to do that correctly in ConTeXt!) in an acceptable way. >=20 > Best regards, Mikael > =20 --Apple-Mail=_331F4DAE-9A9C-427B-ABB6-E8E31493D0B8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Hi = Mikael,

as in my first answer = use:

f''_xx or f''_{xx} if you need both = xs'

I have tried it at it looks very similar to = your LaTeX example.

Start another thread about = the single prime as bug. Since this one is marked as OT
and = others more more knowledgeable might not be reading = this.

regards
= Keith.



Am = 13.02.2014 um 14:40 schrieb Mikael P. Sundqvist <mickep@gmail.com>:

On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 10:01 AM, Keith J. Schultz <schultzk@uni-trier.de> wrote:
Hi Mikael,

Basically, I see your problem = with ConTeXts handling of math as a matter of taste!
That is = you want LaTeX syntax. 

It is easy enough = to get the results you want.

The only place = where I see a bug is that a single prime is set larger than = multple
primes. 

regards
= Keith

Hi = Keith,

I do not agree with you. It is not so important to have = the same syntax as in LaTeX (exception: it would be nice to get double = bars from \| since it does not make sense to have \| yield a single bar = since | does), but to be able to write very common formulas (look at the = example with double derivative with respect to x in my examples above, = and tell me how to do that correctly in ConTeXt!) in an acceptable = way.

Best regards, = Mikael
 

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