Strange t-bib behavior

Strange t-bib behavior

[Johannes Graumann]

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Hello,

I attach an example file which produces strange citation behavior: while the
single citations ('\cite[authoryears][cordingley:90]'
or '\cite[authoryears][walker:94]') work perfectly allright, the dual
citation ('\cite[authoryears][cordingley:90,walker:94]') is being screwed
up:

(Cordingley et al., 1990, Walker, 1994 and , )

Any ideas where the problem lies?

Thanks, Joh

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Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Taco Hoekwater]

Johannes Graumann wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I attach an example file which produces strange citation behavior: while the
> single citations ('\cite[authoryears][cordingley:90]'
> or '\cite[authoryears][walker:94]') work perfectly allright, the dual
> citation ('\cite[authoryears][cordingley:90,walker:94]') is being screwed
> up:
> 
> (Cordingley et al., 1990, Walker, 1994 and , )
> 
> Any ideas where the problem lies?

It runs fine here, so probably you have to update your context
distribution. There were some changes so you need a fairly recent
context. But first, try re-running bibtex.

Cheers,
Taco

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Johannes Graumann]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> It runs fine here, so probably you have to update your context
> distribution. There were some changes so you need a fairly recent
> context. But first, try re-running bibtex.
Taco,

I tried again. See
http://www.idyll.org:8081/JohSite/copy_of_profession/bibprob - same problem
(and it persists in my xml master document). This was a complete restart
and I have wiped the directory multiple times of all things not source
(*.ctx,*.bib). I don't believe this is attributable to me not running an
up-to-date ConTeXt, since I upgraded yesterday and 'texexec --version'
says: 
TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

               texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
               texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2006
                   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.6-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
               context : ver: 2006.04.06 23:00
               cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2006.4.7  mes: english
'bibtex --version' gives me:
BibTeX 0.99c (Web2C 7.5.4)
kpathsea version 3.5.4
Copyright (C) 1997-2004 Oren Patashnik.
Kpathsea is copyright (C) 1997-2004 Free Software Foundation, Inc.
There is NO warranty.  Redistribution of this software is
covered by the terms of both the BibTeX copyright and
the GNU General Public License.
For more information about these matters, see the files
named COPYING and the BibTeX source.
Primary author of BibTeX: Oren Patashnik.
Kpathsea written by Karl Berry and others.

Is that possibly the problem?

Joh

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Taco Hoekwater]

Johannes Graumann wrote:
> TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
> 
>                texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
>                texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2006
>                    tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.6-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
>                context : ver: 2006.04.06 23:00
>                cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2006.4.7  mes: english

This line says you have downloaded a new context, but not installed it
(otherwise the two 'ver:' strings would agree). Please go to the mailing 
list archives on contextgarden,net and do a search for 'tetex' and 
'upgrade', you should find a number of recnt threads dealing with this
issue.

Cheers, taco

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Johannes Graumann]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

>>                context : ver: 2006.04.06 23:00
>>                cont-en : ver: 2005.01.31  fmt: 2006.4.7  mes: english
> 
> This line says you have downloaded a new context, but not installed it
> (otherwise the two 'ver:' strings would agree). Please go to the mailing
> list archives on contextgarden,net and do a search for 'tetex' and
> 'upgrade', you should find a number of recnt threads dealing with this
> issue.

Taco, I followed the new Debian installation instructions and get now:
TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005

               texexec : TeXExec 5.4.3 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1997-2005
               texutil : TeXUtil 9.0.1 - ConTeXt / PRAGMA ADE 1992-2006
                   tex : pdfeTeX, 3.141592-1.30.6-2.2 (Web2C 7.5.5)
               context : ver: 2006.04.06 23:00
               cont-en : ver: 2006.04.06 23:00  fmt: 2006.4.10  mes: english

Thanks for that hint. 
HOWEVER, the citation issue persists - no change!

Joh

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Taco Hoekwater]

Johannes Graumann wrote:
> HOWEVER, the citation issue persists - no change!

Can you send me an example (off-list)? My test files create no such 
problems.

Cheers, Taco

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Johannes Graumann]

Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
> 
> Johannes Graumann wrote:
>> HOWEVER, the citation issue persists - no change!
> 
> Can you send me an example (off-list)? My test files create no such
> problems.
> 
> Cheers, Taco

I learned from your last rant on attachments and posted it here ;0)

http://www.idyll.org:8081/JohSite/copy_of_profession/bibprob/

Joh

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Taco Hoekwater]

Johannes Graumann wrote:
> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
> 
>>
>>Johannes Graumann wrote:
>>
>>>HOWEVER, the citation issue persists - no change!
>>
>>Can you send me an example (off-list)? My test files create no such
>>problems.
>>
>>Cheers, Taco
> 
> 
> I learned from your last rant on attachments and posted it here ;0)

OK, verified the problem. Working on a fix will have to wait 'til
tomorrow, though.

Cheers, taco

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Johannes Graumann]

Thank you for your time.

Joh

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Johannes Graumann wrote:
>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>Johannes Graumann wrote:
>>>
>>>>HOWEVER, the citation issue persists - no change!
>>>
>>>Can you send me an example (off-list)? My test files create no such
>>>problems.
>>>
>>>Cheers, Taco
>> 
>> 
>> I learned from your last rant on attachments and posted it here ;0)
> 
> OK, verified the problem. Working on a fix will have to wait 'til
> tomorrow, though.
> 
> Cheers, taco

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Johannes Graumann]

Oh, could you please try to verify my 'lang'/'language' tag issue as well:
just edit BibProb.bib and switch 'lang = en' to 'language = en' and see
what happens. Does that work for you?

Joh

Taco Hoekwater wrote:

> Johannes Graumann wrote:
>> Taco Hoekwater wrote:
>> 
>>>
>>>Johannes Graumann wrote:
>>>
>>>>HOWEVER, the citation issue persists - no change!
>>>
>>>Can you send me an example (off-list)? My test files create no such
>>>problems.
>>>
>>>Cheers, Taco
>> 
>> 
>> I learned from your last rant on attachments and posted it here ;0)
> 
> OK, verified the problem. Working on a fix will have to wait 'til
> tomorrow, though.
> 
> Cheers, taco

Re: Strange t-bib behavior

[Johannes Graumann]

Johannes Graumann wrote:

> Oh, could you please try to verify my 'lang'/'language' tag issue as well:
> just edit BibProb.bib and switch 'lang = en' to 'language = en' and see
> what happens. Does that work for you?
Forget about this: after the upgrade to the most recent ConTeXt this problem
is a thing of the past.

Joh