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For the fun of it I tried using MKII and with MKIV with: \usetypescript[palatino] \definetypeface [palatino] [mm] [math] [eulernova] [eulernova] = [rscale=3D1.03]=20 \starttext Text font $math font( m^{(34+23)} )$ and $\sin(t) =3D \int_{0}^t = \cos(\theta)d\theta$ \stoptext and the result came out correct! I would assume that simplefonts is not understanding the TYPESCRIPT = eulernova correctly! I just look at the log and seems that MKIV load latin modern math as a = fall back. =46rom the log = Using the above simplefonts method I see: = Using the above simplefonts method with = \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][Neo Euler] I see: = This suggests to me that that simplefonts is some how trying to fall = back and fails or allows a lower level method do the fall back! > But ... keep in mind that eulernova is unfinished. Although it is an = official (dante funded) project, we have to wait till Khaled has found = time for it which is probably less an issue with a few smal patched to = the font, but making it complete is large effort. >=20 > One complication is that euler is normally a mixed-in font, so there = is an upright/italic cq. distinction issue there that will always make = euler a font that should be used when the domain permits it. >=20 > Hans >=20 > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry = to the Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ --Apple-Mail=_088A9753-5BF3-48A9-8798-4638D89B1BB9 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 pragma@wxs.nl>:
On = 10/15/2013 10:02 AM, Otared Kavian wrote:

On 14 oct. 2013, at 19:38, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
[=85]

Hi = Wolfgang,

Thanks for this wonderful module and functionalities, = and the very good tutorials you give us!
Out of curiosity I tested = the examples you sent, which all work perfetcly, but the above code with = eulernova typescript seems not to give the expected result (using = ConTeXt  ver: 2013.10.13 23:58 MKIV) on my installation: please see = the attached PDF result of the following example:

%%% begin = Wolfgang's example
\definefontfamily[mainface][rm][TeX Gyre = Pagella]
\definefontfamily[mainface][mm][eulernova]

\setupbodyfo= nt[mainface]

\starttext
Text font $math font$ and $\sin(t) =3D = \int_{0}^t \cos(\theta)d\theta$
\stoptext
%%% end Wolfgang's = example

The 'h' in mathfont is a probably a bug in = the font (planck constant issue as unicode math has no italic h - sic) = The large () puzzle me a bit as one would expect small ones to start = with.
For the fun of it I tried using MKII and with MKIV = with:
\usetypescript[palatino]
\definetypeface = [palatino] [mm] [math] [eulernova] [eulernova] = [rscale=3D1.03] 

\starttext
Text = font $math font( m^{(34+23)} )$ and $\sin(t) =3D \int_{0}^t = \cos(\theta)d\theta$
\stoptext

and = the result came out correct!

I would assume = that simplefonts is not understanding the TYPESCRIPT eulernova = correctly!

I just look at the log  and = seems that MKIV load latin modern math as a fall back. =46rom the = log

Using the above = simplefonts method with \definefontfamily[mainface][mm][Neo Euler] I = see:


This = suggests to me that that simplefonts is some how trying to fall back and = fails or allows a lower level method do the fall back!
But ... = keep in mind that eulernova is unfinished. Although it is an official = (dante funded) project, we have to wait till Khaled has found time for = it which is probably less an issue with a few smal patched to the font, = but making it complete is large effort.

One complication is that = euler is normally a mixed-in font, so there is an upright/italic cq. = distinction issue there that will always make euler a font that should = be used when the domain permits = it.

Hans

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