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I found the best thing is to post on LaTeX stack exchange a sho= rt piece of context that shows one problem you are having. Tag it #context. S= omeone will kindly help. Repeat for your other problems. I use layers a lot to avoid floats. Good luck, Peter > On 28/02/2023, at 11:47 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BF > Hi everyone, > =20 > I=E2=80=99ve recently had to typeset a document that gave me some headache= s with the floats. The floats where jumping around, appearing in a different= order than in the source file, tables ended up split up at weird points, so= me positioning keys had not the intended effect (e.g. top), =C2=ABpage=C2=BB= moved the float more than seemed necessary for me... I know, TeX=E2=80=99s f= loat positioning algorithm should be rather reliable and stable, and it=E2=80= =99s quite possible that I=E2=80=99m messing things up in my setups=E2=80=93= especially since my source files are XML. > =20 > Anyway, I=E2=80=99d like to learn more about the whole float issue. Is the= re anything particular I could read to learn more about the whole thing? May= be I=E2=80=99m missing out on something fundamental... > =20 > Best, > Denis > __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / https://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-co= ntext > webpage : https://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://context.aanhet.net > archive : https://bitbucket.org/phg/context-mirror/commits/ > wiki : https://contextgarden.net > __________________________________________________________________________= _________ --Apple-Mail-26CE1D11-64FC-450D-ABEB-0A33241B66C9 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, me too. I found the best thing is to post on LaTeX stack e= xchange a short piece of context that shows one problem you are having. Tag i= t #context. Someone will kindly help. Repeat for your other problems.
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I use layers a lot to avoid float= s.

Good luck,
Peter

On 2= 8/02/2023, at 11:47 PM, Denis Maier via ntg-context <ntg-context@ntg.nl&g= t; wrote:

=EF=BB=BF =

Hi everyone,

 

I=E2=80=99ve recently had to typ= eset a document that gave me some headaches with the floats. The floats wher= e jumping around, appearing in a different order than in the source file, ta= bles ended up split up at weird points, some positioning keys had not the intended effect (e.g. top), =C2=ABpage=C2=BB m= oved the float more than seemed necessary for me... I know, TeX=E2=80=99s fl= oat positioning algorithm should be rather reliable and stable, and it=E2=80= =99s quite possible that I=E2=80=99m messing things up in my setups=E2=80=93= especially since my source files are XML.

 

Anyway, I=E2=80=99d like to lear= n more about the whole float issue. Is there anything particular I could rea= d to learn more about the whole thing? Maybe I=E2=80=99m missing out on some= thing fundamental...

 

Best,

Denis

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