whitespace in framedtext

whitespace in framedtext

[Hans van der Meer]

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I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom of a  
framedtext.
Like thus:

	not this                         but this
------------------------------      ------------------------------
|                            |      |                            |
|                            |      |   abcd                     |
|   abcd                     |      |   abcd                     |
|   abcd                     |      |                            |
|                            |      ------------------------------
|                            |
------------------------------

I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the whitespace, it  
is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right track; and it is  
not parametrized.

Someone knows the trick?

Hans van der Meer



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Re: whitespace in framedtext

[Wolfgang Schuster]

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2007/7/2, Hans van der Meer <hansm@science.uva.nl>:
> I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom of a
> framedtext.
> Like thus:
>
>  not this                         but this
> ------------------------------      ------------------------------
> |                            |      |                            |
> |                            |      |   abcd                     |
> |   abcd                     |      |   abcd                     |
> |   abcd                     |      |                            |
> |                            |      ------------------------------
> |                            |
> ------------------------------
>
> I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the whitespace, it is not
> much nor am I sure if this is on the right track; and it is not
> parametrized.
>
> Someone knows the trick?
>
>
> Hans van der Meer

Hi Hans,

ConTeXt did not support different offset values for \framed and \startframedtext
but you can use my module to use enable them.

Look in the two example files how to use it.

Wolfgang

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Re: whitespace in framedtext

[Patrick Gundlach]

Hello Hans,


> I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom of a
> framedtext.
> Like thus:
>
> 	not this                         but this
> ------------------------------      ------------------------------
> |                            |      |                            |
> |                            |      |   abcd                     |
> |   abcd                     |      |   abcd                     |
> |   abcd                     |      |                            |
> |                            |      ------------------------------
> |                            |
> ------------------------------
>
> I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the whitespace, it
> is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right track; and it is
> not parametrized.
>
> Someone knows the trick?

perhaps with an overlay?

--------------------------------------------------
\def\TightFrame
  {\startoverlay
    {\framed[width=\overlaywidth,height=\dimexpr(\overlayheight - 5ex)]{}}{}\stopoverlay}
\defineoverlay[TightFrame][\TightFrame]


\starttext

\startframedtext [background=TightFrame,frame=off]
Hallo Welt
\input tufte

\input knuth
\stopframedtext
\stoptext
--------------------------------------------------
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Re: whitespace in framedtext

[John R. Culleton]

On Tuesday 03 July 2007 04:20, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
> Hello Hans,
>
> > I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom
> > of a framedtext.
> > Like thus:
> >
> > 	not this                         but this
> > ------------------------------     
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > |                            |      |   abcd                    
> > |                            |      | |
> > |
> > |   abcd                     |      |   abcd                    
> > | | abcd                     |      |                           
> > | |
> > |
> > |                            |     
> > |                            | ------------------------------
> >
> > ------------------------------
> >
> > I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> > Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the
> > whitespace, it is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right
> > track; and it is not parametrized.
> >
> > Someone knows the trick?
>
> perhaps with an overlay?
>
> --------------------------------------------------
> \def\TightFrame
>   {\startoverlay
>     {\framed[width=\overlaywidth,height=\dimexpr(\overlayheight -
> 5ex)]{}}{}\stopoverlay} \defineoverlay[TightFrame][\TightFrame]
>
>
> \starttext
>
> \startframedtext [background=TightFrame,frame=off]
> Hallo Welt
> \input tufte
>
> \input knuth
> \stopframedtext
> \stoptext

First I woud try just a negative \vskip thus:
\vskip -10pt

I know we are not supposed to use \vskips in Context  except when 
enclosed by 
\startstandardmakeup
\stopstandardmakeup
But I use them and thus far there have been no terrible bad effects. 

If you use \vskip and the sky falls in then there are the more complex 
but safer methods such as the  one outlined by Patrick G.
-- 
John Culleton
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Re: whitespace in framedtext

[Hans van der Meer]

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Thanks to all people who were so kind to react to this message.

It turned out to be a problem to be characterized by "Oh, silly me",  
since I seem to have completely forgotten about the default offset  
for framedtexts not being zero.
Therefore: the most simple solution (and I really think I should have  
thought of it much earlier) was to use \startframedtext[offset=0pt].

with humbly regards
Hans van der Meer

On Jul 2, 2007, at 17:43, Hans van der Meer wrote:

> I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom of  
> a framedtext.
> Like thus:
>
> 	not this                         but this
> ------------------------------      ------------------------------
> |                            |      |                            |
> |                            |      |   abcd                     |
> |   abcd                     |      |   abcd                     |
> |   abcd                     |      |                            |
> |                            |      ------------------------------
> |                            |
> ------------------------------
>
> I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the whitespace,  
> it is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right track; and it  
> is not parametrized.
>
> Someone knows the trick?
>



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Re: whitespace in framedtext

[Wolfgang Schuster]

2007/7/3, John R. Culleton <john@wexfordpress.com>:
> On Tuesday 03 July 2007 04:20, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
> > Hello Hans,
> >
> > > I would like to shrink the whitespace at the top and the bottom
> > > of a framedtext.
> > > Like thus:
> > >
> > >     not this                         but this
> > > ------------------------------
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > |                            |      |   abcd
> > > |                            |      | |
> > > |
> > > |   abcd                     |      |   abcd
> > > | | abcd                     |      |
> > > | |
> > > |
> > > |                            |
> > > |                            | ------------------------------
> > >
> > > ------------------------------
> > >
> > > I have tried a lot of things with [before, after, top, bottom].
> > > Although [depthcorrection=off] shaves somewhat off the
> > > whitespace, it is not much nor am I sure if this is on the right
> > > track; and it is not parametrized.
> > >
> > > Someone knows the trick?
> >
> > perhaps with an overlay?
> >
> > --------------------------------------------------
> > \def\TightFrame
> >   {\startoverlay
> >     {\framed[width=\overlaywidth,height=\dimexpr(\overlayheight -
> > 5ex)]{}}{}\stopoverlay} \defineoverlay[TightFrame][\TightFrame]
> >
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \startframedtext [background=TightFrame,frame=off]
> > Hallo Welt
> > \input tufte
> >
> > \input knuth
> > \stopframedtext
> > \stoptext
>
> First I woud try just a negative \vskip thus:
> \vskip -10pt
>
> I know we are not supposed to use \vskips in Context  except when
> enclosed by
> \startstandardmakeup
> \stopstandardmakeup
> But I use them and thus far there have been no terrible bad effects.
>
> If you use \vskip and the sky falls in then there are the more complex
> but safer methods such as the  one outlined by Patrick G.
> --
> John Culleton

why should we avoid primtives in ConTeXt, I see no problem to use them
as long as you know what you do.

\starttext
\startframedtext[offset=2cm,top=\vskip-1cm\relax,bottom=\vskip-1cm\relax]
\input knuth
\stopframedtext
\stoptext

Wolfgang
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