From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/76537 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Willi Egger Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Is it possible to define a custom imposition schema? (sure it is, but how?) Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:23 +0200 Message-ID: References: <878vgayl0w.fsf@universe.krase.net> <87pq9mvmll.fsf@universe.krase.net> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v1278) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1338322894 8110 80.91.229.3 (29 May 2012 20:21:34 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 29 May 2012 20:21:34 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue May 29 22:21:31 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([195.12.62.10]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1SZSv5-0003mh-7u for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:31 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AC2A101E8; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:30 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id jEf3QnItekFq; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id B1D46101E4; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:28 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7D7DD101E4 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:27 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 7uN97RWcEWsL for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.70]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63DB4101E2 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from webmail.digitpaint.nl (webmail.digitpaint.nl [83.98.197.40]) by filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id q4TKLOqN004844 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:24 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by webmail.digitpaint.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5CE8418AE86 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from webmail.digitpaint.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mail.digitpaint.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id wNbUzCZNGs4x for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from willis-computer.fritz.box (a83-161-249-79.adsl.xs4all.nl [83.161.249.79]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by webmail.digitpaint.nl (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 33A8518AE83 for ; Tue, 29 May 2012 22:21:23 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <87pq9mvmll.fsf@universe.krase.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1278) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=83.98.197.40; country=NL; latitude=52.5000; longitude=5.7500; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=52.5000,5.7500&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0QHfUlov9 - d4a586ee9698 - 20120529 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:76537 Archived-At: To my knowledge the printer will have more hand-work than accepting that e.= g. the 2*4*2 or the 2*2*4 scheme is used. - Again, if I understand you corr= ectly, then the folding machine can only do a single fold. So after assembl= ing the section with two folded sheets still a manual fold must be made alo= ng the spine. I expect that the assembly is quite unstable if it has to be = stitched/sewn. In the first case one can pick two sheets and fold them twice, resulting i= n a 16 pages section. Such folded sections are stable for stitching/sewing.= Even more easy is the 2*2*4 approach, with a single folding over the spi= ne you end up with a section of 16 pages. This kind of section is reasonabl= y stable for stitching/sewing. = Willi On May 29, 2012, at 9:00 PM, Marco Pessotto wrote: > Willi Egger writes: > = >> Hi Marco, >> = >> If I understand correctly what you need is a system which is basically >> based on booklet-printing but each booklet should be restricted to 16 >> pages. In this case you might try >> = >> \setuparranging[2*2*4] >> = >> This scheme put two pages on the front and two pages on the backside >> of a sheet of paper. Then it uses 4 sheets to complete the section. >> = >> Willi > = > Hello Willi, thanks for your reply. > = > No, the scheme is quite complicated (from 1 to 16) because the pages are > first folded, then the two *folded* sheets are inserted one into the > other, and then signature is bound and trimmed. > = > So the scheme looks so (R means rotated 180=B0): > = > = > 13 R | 4 R > ----------- = > 16 | 1 > = > = > 3 R | 14 R > ----------- > 2 | 15 > = > = > 9 R | 8 R > ----------- > 12 | 5 > = > 7R | 10R > ---------- > 6 | 11 > = > = > Yes, that's crazy (if you ask me). As I said, I'll go with the layers > and a perl helper, the outcome looks almost fine. > = > Best wishes > = > -- = > Marco > = > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to= the Wiki! > = > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-co= ntext > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > _________________________________________________________________________= __________ ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________