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From: Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com>
To: mailing list for ConTeXt users <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Subject: Re: \setupcaptions question
Date: Fri, 13 Feb 2015 04:54:58 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <F0A61DDF-6ABF-4BFE-8994-D4807D1A9B8F@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <op.xtytetwup7eajd@muck.fritz.box>


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> Am 12.02.2015 um 23:14 schrieb j. van den hoff <veedeehjay@googlemail.com>:
> 
>>> On 12 Feb 2015, at 22:31, Wolfgang Schuster <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Am 12.02.2015 um 17:37 schrieb j. van den hoff <veedeehjay@googlemail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> I want to use `numberstopper' for figure caption customization like so:
>>>> 
>>>> \setupcaptions[numberstopper={:}]
>>>> 
>>>> this works fine for the caption itself (i.e. I get, e.g. "Figure 1:
>>>> caption text") _but_
>>>> references to the figure via a defined label such as [fig:example]
>>>> in the body text do include the numberstopper, too, which is highly
>>>> undesirable in my view, since, e.g.,
>>>> 
>>>> "... see Figure 1: for an example. ..."
>>>> 
>>>> should rather read
>>>> 
>>>> "... see Figure 1 for an example. ..."
>>>> 
>>>> i.e. the numberstopper should be omitted (at least optionally) when
>>>> referencing.
>>>> 
>>>> question: how can this be achieved?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Can you make a example because I can’t reproduce the problem you describe.
> 
> I have done that right now (problem definitely there) but then looked at the difference between my syntax
> and yours. I used something like
> 
> \setupexternalfigures [directory={.}]
> \setupcaption[width=.95\textwidth, location=bottom, numberstopper={:}]
> 
> \starttext
> An illustration of this process is given in Fig.~\in[fig:convosim].
> ....
> \stoptext
> 
> changing the referencing to
> 
> An illustration of this process is given in Fig.~\at[fig:convosim].
> 
> i.e. replacing `\in' by `\at' resolves the issue. I'm rather new to context and was under the impression that `\in' is the
> context equivalent of latex's \ref and was not aware of \at at all.
> but this seems only partly true. can you give me a pointer where best to look up the
> differences between `\in' and `\at'?
> 
> so it seems I need to use \at for referencing figures, at least when numberstopper is not empty? ok, so be it ....

No, you’re right. I used the wrong command (\at is used to show the page where to float was placed)
and so far there is only a workaround for this problem. What you can do is to use the “suffix” key to set
a stopper for the caption which will only appear in the caption itself.


\setupexternalfigure[location=default]

\setupcaption[figure][suffix=:]

\starttext

Take a look at \in{picture}[fig:cow] below.

\startplacefigure[reference=fig:cow,title=A dutch cow]
  \externalfigure[cow]
\stopplacefigure

\stoptext


This solution is far from perfect because normally the suffix key is used for the internal counter
of split floats, e.g. when a numbered table is split over several tables and you get numbers label
„Table 3.a” etc.

Wolfgang

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  reply	other threads:[~2015-02-13  3:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-02-12 16:37 j. van den hoff
2015-02-12 21:18 ` Otared Kavian
2015-02-12 21:41   ` j. van den hoff
2015-02-12 21:31 ` Wolfgang Schuster
2015-02-12 21:56   ` Otared Kavian
2015-02-12 22:14     ` j. van den hoff
2015-02-13  3:54       ` Wolfgang Schuster [this message]
2015-02-13  7:53         ` j. van den hoff
2015-03-10 12:06           ` Wolfgang Schuster
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2015-02-12 16:21 joerg van den hoff

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