From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/84485 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Keith J. 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In section 1.1.1 the last sentence is: TeXLive comes with a quite nice editor, TeXShop, that works well with ConT= EXt = 1) Missing period 2) TeXShop is Mac only. You probably meant to to say TeXWorks! TeXWorks is based on TeXShop. I do not know if it runs on Windows. In section 1.1.2 in the last sentence you write: [=85] and (abt 40 euros; a non-commercial licence is cheaper) [=85] 1) I do not get this? Where do you buy it? Never new you could buy it! 2) On can install the ConTeXt Standalone and download TeXShop, very little effort is needed to direct TeXShop to the standalone version. Switching between TeXLive and Standalone is then easy. 3) I could write up a tutorial for installing and TeXlive and Standalon= e = if you care for one. = Furthermore, Mac OS is a Unix system, though most do not realize this. Also, It might be best to point to the wiki for installing ConTeXt. In section 2.2 you talk about command, yet you forget to mention that comma= nds can have a "setup"-command. I believe it is important to mention this as it is a integral part of ConTeXt and very important when using it as you ex= ample commands show. = In general I would say your general way of going about things are O.K. Yet, I have one problem. I personally believe you should go into more detail about the relationship between typesetting, layout and ConTeXt. It depends if you are writing a getting started manual or want to write a comprehensive tutorial. = I myself started on a tutorial as I find the contextref not comprehensive enough and it really does not go into the caveats and use of all the options of the commands therein. My idea was to divide the section into basics and explanation of the options and advanced usage. = Hope this helps. Keep up the good work. reagrds Keith. = Am 29.09.2013 um 17:22 schrieb Mari Voipio : > Hello! > = > Inspired by some informal discussions at the recent ConTeXt meeting I > started to write a *really* basic ConTeXt tutorial. However, before I > get further than the first six chapters, I'd like to get feedback on > it, especially on the content, but also on the layout. The file is (at > least temporarily) available at > . > = > I know already that there are a few things missing in the existing > chapters, but I'd like to know if the document is any good and if the > style is suitable for such a document. I've planned and written it out > of my own experiences with ConTeXt, so maybe this document could > become a My Way doc when it is finished (something public domain > anyway). ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________