From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/92125 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "talazem@fastmail.fm" Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: footnotes when using RtL (Arabic) Date: Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:51:24 +0100 Message-ID: References: <5DE7C0E5-418B-41D4-8E1D-0C4C7C481B16@fastmail.fm> <55BA340A.2070501@gmx.es> <55BA64EF.3040701@gmail.com> <739C797C-2603-41F9-8611-E7B88BC7FFFD@fastmail.fm> <55BA752D.30103@gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.0 \(3073\)) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1483205411==" X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1438300302 1545 80.91.229.3 (30 Jul 2015 23:51:42 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:51:42 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Fri Jul 31 01:51:28 2015 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKxbj-0001uK-Tz for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:51:28 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E186B10235 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:51:26 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id bXgYMHWpNZup for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:51:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 98A4110239 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:50:52 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id DFD7D101FD for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:50:45 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id Hj0ss_n9l4ae for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:50:44 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.70]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E54D4101F7 for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:50:43 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from host21.specialservers.com (host21.specialservers.com [213.175.196.29] (may be forged)) by filter2-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.4/8.14.4/Debian-4) with ESMTP id t6UNogCb004888 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 01:50:42 +0200 Original-Received: from cpc69046-oxfd25-2-0-cust964.4-3.cable.virginm.net ([81.109.87.197]:35404 helo=[10.0.1.2]) by host21.specialservers.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.85) (envelope-from ) id 1ZKxaz-002WD0-Dy for ntg-context@ntg.nl; Fri, 31 Jul 2015 00:50:41 +0100 In-Reply-To: <55BA752D.30103@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3073) X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host21.specialservers.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - ntg.nl X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fastmail.fm X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: host21.specialservers.com: authenticated_id: talal@alazem.org X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=213.175.196.29; country=GB; latitude=51.5000; longitude=-0.1300; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.5000,-0.1300&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 0QOWLOG60 - 21fcb675c1fd - 20150731 Received-SPF: neutral (filter2-ams.mf.surf.net: 213.175.196.29 is neither permitted nor denied by domain talazem@fastmail.fm) receiver=filter2-ams.mf.surf.net; client-ip=213.175.196.29; envelope-from=; helo=host21.specialservers.com; identity=mailfrom X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.70 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.16 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: "ntg-context" Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:92125 Archived-At: --===============1483205411== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_45D87BC2-AA64-4F02-AEA4-5B3C5B0875DA" --Apple-Mail=_45D87BC2-AA64-4F02-AEA4-5B3C5B0875DA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 You=E2=80=99re right. The patch gets us half way to the desired = behaviour (namely, correct ordering of the footnotes within the = paragraph). But it seems that the =E2=80=98paragraph=E2=80=99 option = doesn=E2=80=99t play well with RTL generally, resulting in the second = note disappearing when using \startsetups[note:footnote] = \setupdirections[bidi=3Dglobal] \stopsetups. > On 30 Jul 2015, at 20:04, Wolfgang Schuster = wrote: >=20 >> talazem@fastmail.fm 30. Juli 2015 = 20:37 >> I=E2=80=99ve come across a snag. When using parentheses in Arabic = footnotes, they are flipped. In any earlier email = (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/91501/match=3Dsetupdirect= ions+bidi+global = ), you had advised adding the following: >>=20 >>> \startsetups[note:footnote] >>> \setupdirections[bidi=3Dglobal] >>> \stopsetups >>>=20 >>> \setupnote[footnote][setups=3Dnote:footnote] % align=3Drighttoleft >> However, if one does this with your patch, the second footnote gets = dropped. Here is the MWE: >>=20 > The second note disappears even without the patch, the problem this = the paragraph option for the notes. >=20 > Wolfgang > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry = to the Wiki! >=20 > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > = __________________________________________________________________________= _________ --Apple-Mail=_45D87BC2-AA64-4F02-AEA4-5B3C5B0875DA Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 You=E2=80=99re right. The patch gets us half way to the = desired behaviour (namely, correct ordering of the footnotes within the = paragraph). But it seems that the =E2=80=98paragraph=E2=80=99 = option doesn=E2=80=99t play well with RTL generally, resulting in the = second note disappearing when using \startsetups[note:footnote] = \setupdirections[bidi=3Dglobal] \stopsetups.

On 30 Jul 2015, at 20:04, Wolfgang Schuster = <schuster.wolfgang@gmail.com> wrote:

talazem@fastmail.fm
30. Juli 2015 20:37
I=E2=80=99ve come across a snag. When using parentheses in =
Arabic footnotes, they are flipped. In any earlier email (http://article.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context/9=
1501/match=3Dsetupdirections+bidi+global), you had advised adding =
the following:


\startsetups[note:footnote]
  \setupdirections[bidi=3Dglobal]
\stopsetups

\setupnote[footnote][setups=3Dnote:footnote] % align=3Drighttoleft

However, if one does this =
with your patch, the second footnote gets dropped. Here is the MWE:
The second note disappears even without the = patch, the problem this the paragraph option for the notes.

Wolfgang
_______________________________________________________________= ____________________
If your question is = of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the = Wiki!

maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / = http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
webpage  : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net
archive  : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/
wiki     : http://contextgarden.net
_______________________________________________________________= ____________________

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