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[77.191.185.120]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id g28sm1069412bkv.17.2013.01.30.12.56.20 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 30 Jan 2013 12:56:21 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <69E0FC04-505F-4766-8813-5D2689025B74@web.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1499) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=209.85.214.49; country=US; region=CA; city=Mountain View; postalcode=94043; latitude=37.4192; longitude=-122.0574; metrocode=807; areacode=650; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=37.4192,-122.0574&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 03ISkUn4F - 3ac2ffaac18e - 20130130 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 192.87.102.71 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:80552 Archived-At: Am 30.01.2013 um 10:00 schrieb Keith J. Schultz : > Hi Everybody, > = > Thank you for your help with the documentation. > = > Inorder to teach myself ConTeXt I have to decided to write a > learning by doing manual for ConTeXt. = > = > First off, I know I can get the formatting needed, > by using defineparagraph and setupparagraphs, but then = > have I have to use start/stop-myparagraph, etc. . > = > Well, I wanted "format" my normal paragraphs. = > Following, the standard way of doing things in ConTeX, as > with headers and wanted to use setupparagraphs. > = > The problem want is the name of the standard(default) paragraph. > I have not found any. Is there a name for it. > = > As example lets take I want to have a little space between my paragraph. > = > MWE > = > \setupwhitespace{medium] > = > \startext > = > > = > > = > \stoptext > = > What I would like is to do: > = > MNWE: > = > \setuparagraphs[][][before=3D{\setupwhitespace{medium]] > %% or > %% \setuparagraphs[][][before=3D\bigskip] > \startext > = > > = > > = > \stoptext > = > In other words there is no way, that I can find to globally set "standard= " paragraphs!! > = > The same goes for indenting of paragraphs. Yes, Yes there are the standar= d indenting commands. > = > I feel though one should be able to use setupparagraphs for this. > = > Also, it took me awhile to find the setupwhitespace command, because for = me whitespace can be > either horizontal or vertical. I think it would be better to rename it to= setupparagraphspacing or something > like that. Or at least define a synonym for it. This would make things ea= sier for the casual or beginning user. = Which space do you mean in horizontal direction? > Maybe I am missing something. Ideas welcome. The problem with the formatting of paragraphs is that TeX (the engine) has = no big concept about paragraphs. When you want to change the font or color for a paragraph you have to chang= e the values of the document with \setupbodyfont[=85] or \setupcolors[textcolor=3D=85]. For local change= s for a certain paragraph you can apply these values in a group (to change the color you can just use \startc= olor[=85] =85 \stopcolor). ConTeXt provides also a paragraph environment but this add only tags when y= ou export the document as XML or create a tagged PDF. The paragraphs (note the "s") environment has a Hans already mentioned noth= ing to do with paragraphs, it just puts the content on columns where each column can con tai multiple = paragraphs. The name for the environment is misleading because columns is already taken as name. Wolfgang ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________