From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/36615 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Andrea Valle Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: XeTeX after ctxtools Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:03 +0200 Message-ID: References: <9C1FC149-7B67-40A9-81E0-CD2E85AED661@di.unito.it> <46EA93C5.4000002@wxs.nl> <46EA97EF.3020903@wxs.nl> <4004FAC5-BCE9-40EB-8B51-252CF374E8E1@di.unito.it> <46EAD2D0.1040808@wxs.nl> <75363584-8F37-4DC5-B5D0-EF49E926D9A4@di.unito.it> <46EBC11F.7000902@wxs.nl> <047C1201-F284-49A7-A8DF-FD51491F722B@di.unito.it> <46EC0BB8.6080500@wxs.nl> <6faad9f00709151051v58a3c7d3nd6c11e1f042bb375@mail.gmail.com> <46EC3552.9000005@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.3) Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============1700429854==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1189929221 2449 80.91.229.12 (16 Sep 2007 07:53:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2007 07:53:41 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun Sep 16 09:53:37 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1IWowi-0005TZ-NX for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:36 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6E7BA2042E; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01080-06-6; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6F3512042B; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:27 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 63B6C2042B for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01080-06-5 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from pianeta.di.unito.it (pianeta.di.unito.it [130.192.156.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id F0A3720428 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from [192.168.1.2] (d83-184-26-160.cust.tele2.it [83.184.26.160]) by pianeta.di.unito.it (INFO-DIP) with ESMTP id l8G7r8fC020704 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO userCertificateDN= AuthenticatedUser=valle ) for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2007 09:53:08 +0200 (MEST) In-Reply-To: <46EC3552.9000005@wxs.nl> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.3) X-dipinfo-MailScanner-Information: Please contact Department of Computer Science technical staff for more information X-AntiVirus: Scanned for viruses by VirusFinder @2001-tecnici@di.unito.it - Email Clean X-SpamCheck: not spam, SpamAssassin (score=-100.652, required 3.5, autolearn=not spam, AUTHENTICATEDUSER -100.00, BAYES_00 -2.60, HTML_MESSAGE 0.00, RCVD_IN_NJABL_DUL 1.95) X-MailScanner-From: valle@di.unito.it X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:36615 Archived-At: --===============1700429854== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-108--978897400 --Apple-Mail-108--978897400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; delsp=yes; format=flowed I was happy with old install, with bugs and xetex low level commands :-) So, er, which strategy you gurus suggest? Reinstall from scratch (old) TeXLive 2007 waiting for a new release? I have that project of typesetting our journal which will start in a =20 month. (I'd like to use system fonts, also to approximate the original =20 typesetting) Thanks Best -a- On 15 Sep 2007, at 21:41, Hans Hagen wrote: > Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> (I'm sorry for the delayed answer.) >> >> On 9/15/07, Hans Hagen wrote: >>> Andrea Valle wrote: >>>> ** WARNING ** Invalid CMap >>>> ** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): passed invalid object. >>> i wonder what that object is .. and who generates the ref, could =20 >>> be a >>> special but you do nothing special in the example so i'm =20 >>> puzzled ... do >>> others have this problem? >> >> Yes. I don't remember whether I already complained about it or not, >> but here's another (minimal) example to reproduce it: >> >> \starttext >> \startformula >> a+b=3D\int_{i=3D0}^{\infty}\Gamma\,dx >> \stopformula >> \stoptext >> >> The main problem (besides being quite slow for the default LM) is =20 >> that >> "font loading" in ConTeXt+XeTeX now does the following: >> >> if ("FontName" is a valid font) then >> use "FontName" >> else >> use "[FontName]" >> end >> >> And that one forgets the third possibility: about the old tfm fonts >> which should be loaded without any quotes, for example rm-lmr12 >> >> \font\a=3D"rm-lmr12" works, but \font\a=3D"rm-lmr12" at 12pt doesn't, = and >> ConTeXt tries to use that one. Normally TeX would stop: generate and >> report the error at that point, but ConTeXt currently skips those >> errors on purpose and tries to use an unexisting font, so it results >> in a broken PDF. > > i will send you a patch (yet another test for a spec -) > > Hans > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE > Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands > tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com > | www.pragma-pod.nl > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > ______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an =20 > entry to the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/=20 > ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ______________________________________________________________________=20= > _____________ -------------------------------------------------- Andrea Valle -------------------------------------------------- CIRMA - DAMS Universit=E0 degli Studi di Torino --> http://www.cirma.unito.it/andrea/ --> andrea.valle@unito.it -------------------------------------------------- I did this interview where I just mentioned that I read Foucault. Who =20= doesn't in university, right? I was in this strip club giving this =20 guy a lap dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault with =20 me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can discuss =20 Foucault, but not at the same time; too much information. (Annabel Chong) --Apple-Mail-108--978897400 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 I was happy with old install, = with bugs and xetex low level commands :-)

So, er, which strategy you gurus = suggest?

Reinstall from scratch = (old) TeXLive 2007 waiting for a new release?

I have that project of = typesetting our journal which will start in a month.
(I'd like = to use system fonts, also to approximate the original = typesetting)


Thanks

Best

-a-



On 15 Sep = 2007, at 21:41, Hans Hagen wrote:

Mojca Miklavec wrote:
(I'm sorry for the delayed = answer.)

On 9/15/07, Hans Hagen wrote:
Andrea Valle wrote:
=
** WARNING ** Invalid = CMap
** ERROR ** pdf_ref_obj(): = passed invalid object.
i wonder what = that object is .. and who generates the ref, could be a
special but you do nothing special in the example so = i'm puzzled ... do
others have this = problem?
Yes. I don't remember whether I = already complained about it or not,
but here's = another (minimal) example to reproduce it:

\startformula
a+b=3D\int_{i=3D0}^{\infty}\Gamma\,dx
\stopformula

The main problem (besides being quite slow for the = default LM) is that
"font loading" in = ConTeXt+XeTeX now does the following:

if = ("FontName" is a valid font) then
=A0=A0 =A0 use = "FontName"
else
=A0 =A0 = use "[FontName]"
end

And that = one forgets the third possibility: about the old tfm fonts
which should be loaded without any quotes, for = example rm-lmr12

\font\a=3D"rm-lmr12" works, but \font\a=3D"rm-lmr12" = at 12pt doesn't, and
ConTeXt tries to use that = one. Normally TeX would stop: generate and
report = the error at that point, but ConTeXt currently skips those
errors on purpose and tries to use an unexisting = font, so it results
in a broken PDF.
=

i will send you a patch (yet another test for a spec = -)

Hans

=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE
=A0=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands
=A0 =A0 =A0 = tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 = =A0 | www.pragma-pod.nl
If your question is of interest = to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki!

maillist = : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/= mailman/listinfo/ntg-context
http://www.cirma.unito.it/andre= a/
= --------------------------------------------------


I did this interview where I just = mentioned that I read Foucault. Who doesn't in = university, right? I was in this strip = club giving this guy a lap = dance and all he wanted to do was to discuss Foucault = with me. Well, I can stand naked and do my little dance, or I can = discuss Foucault, but not at the same time; too much = information.
(Annabel = Chong)



=

= --Apple-Mail-108--978897400-- --===============1700429854== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________ --===============1700429854==--