From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/50741 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Henning Hraban Ramm Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Seeking a Deeper ConTeXt: Questions for Initializing Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 20:35:21 +0200 Message-ID: References: <4c1f1f860905241017s40033f7crde553d358a24b57f@mail.gmail.com> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v935.3) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed"; DelSp="yes" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1243190291 19626 80.91.229.12 (24 May 2009 18:38:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 24 May 2009 18:38:11 +0000 (UTC) To: mailing list for ConTeXt users Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Sun May 24 20:38:04 2009 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1M8IaC-0008WJ-F2 for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:38:04 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A33D21FE05; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:38:03 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 25590-04; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:36:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 14EB21FDF3; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:36:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A57C91FDF3 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:36:17 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24344-06-2 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:35:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter3-nij.mf.surf.net (filter3-nij.mf.surf.net [195.169.124.154]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 39BA81FDE6 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:35:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from turan.fiee.net (lvps87-230-77-106.dedicated.hosteurope.de [87.230.77.106]) by filter3-nij.mf.surf.net (8.13.8/8.13.8/Debian-3) with ESMTP id n4OIZOOx015438 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:35:24 +0200 Original-Received: from turan.fiee.net (lvps87-230-77-106.dedicated.hosteurope.de [127.0.0.1]) by turan.fiee.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 6248018E08040 for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:35:23 +0200 (CEST) Received-SPF: neutral (lvps87-230-77-106.dedicated.hosteurope.de: 85.1.217.237 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of fiee.net) client-ip=85.1.217.237; envelope-from=hraban@fiee.net; helo=[10.128.9.9]; Original-Received: from [10.128.9.9] (237-217.1-85.cust.bluewin.ch [85.1.217.237]) by turan.fiee.net (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Sun, 24 May 2009 20:35:22 +0200 (CEST) In-Reply-To: <4c1f1f860905241017s40033f7crde553d358a24b57f@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.935.3) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=87.230.77.106; country=DE; region=07; city=Host; latitude=51.6500; longitude=6.1833; http://maps.google.com/maps?q=51.6500,6.1833&z=6 X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 230735307 - 88f925f23b6c - 20090524 X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) on 195.169.124.154 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.11 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:50741 Archived-At: Am 2009-05-24 um 19:17 schrieb John Haltiwanger: > 1) Can environment files be used across documents, or is it > generally understood that every ConTeXt document requires its own > environment formatting? (The latter is the view of someone on c.t.t, > who said his perception of ConTeXt was that it was for typesetting > individual documents and had less application beyond that domain.) Normally you use environment files for coherent projects (magazines, books) or sets of similar documents (letters, presentations). The difference in usage between a LaTeX document class and a ConTeXt environment is neglectable IMO. The real difference is that most LaTeX users just *use* some document class unchanged, because LaTeX doesn't encourage defining your own, while there are nearly no ready-to-use ConTeXt environments available and most ConTeXt users want write their own anyway. For one-off documents I put everything in one file (and perhaps copy setup bits from other one-off files or environments). If *I* require a special layout for a single document, I normally use InDesign. The effort of "programming" a setup or an environment pays off only if you use it more often IMO. > 2) What is the state of XML output for ConTeXt files? I have to say > I will find it hard to justify using TeX for documents if it means > they are not translatable to XML easily. I'm also interested in any > RDF support ConTeXt might have. XML is no target format for any TeX implementation. XML is a source format, and a good one if you want to process (typeset) it with ConTeXt (and perhaps make HTML from the same source). What do you mean with RDF? This one?: http://www.w3.org/RDF/ Or did you mean RTF? ConTeXt, like every flavour of TeX, is a "text compiler" to PDF (and DVI, if that's really important for you). Professional, printable, presentable output. No more, no less. Greetlings from Lake Constance! Hraban --- http://www.fiee.net/texnique/ http://wiki.contextgarden.net https://www.cacert.org (I'm an assurer) ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________