From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/88473 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Robert Blackstone Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Distances between chapter and section titles and text Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:48:50 +0200 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1408438156 27639 80.91.229.3 (19 Aug 2014 08:49:16 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2014 08:49:16 +0000 (UTC) To: ntg-context@ntg.nl Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Tue Aug 19 10:49:11 2014 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([5.39.185.229]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1XJf6L-00018M-KZ for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:49:09 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id E597C1025A for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:49:08 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id BRpSj82kSoWe for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:49:08 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 5F2EE10220 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:49:02 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78576101E3 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:48:57 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: Debian amavisd-new at balder.ntg.nl Original-Received: from balder.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (balder.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id DO23p1IFVseE for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:48:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (filter4-ams.mf.surf.net [192.87.102.72]) by balder.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 20052101E1 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 10:48:55 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from mail-wg0-x22c.google.com (mail-wg0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c]) by filter4-ams.mf.surf.net (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-9.4) with ESMTP id s7J9FOLE006289 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128 verify=NOT) for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 11:15:24 +0200 Original-Received: by mail-wg0-f44.google.com with SMTP id m15so5978976wgh.3 for ; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:48:54 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=wRJgwZfSBeScN7Rob6AVQu7nCvgkwTKehzfEM8/3qAE=; b=zeoewmX3CkoFew6PIPUvJZ6wEXMzTUvVG+HncouNbM37AHk9Gq7mhdtddweEbYZnTv U63y7Uw3P0pJfb9zCM21x4GL/tyHj1m1bUMIal4QT0rSH1tlpzIrA93frWHAt0sAcqou v9/JZ6CraJnU0mR4mz0guU0nX4Tu670NFJzvtHjog0eQjreQH6/ch3+qu0muQUw0lOa7 zTKTfqnxaAAk193lE1r3GLGb/kTaKfqZ5hzUOR2NhGVx6kzpvAdenh9YzN2Y7nC16Lrb HyGzTd14QY2gEo4pCTJL2wK9iqNcAFyvWGEf4ahX1zR/GE9/yl47o2sy6qsFFCtNYAcV 4Z/g== X-Received: by 10.194.59.42 with SMTP id w10mr1732885wjq.15.1408438134144; Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:48:54 -0700 (PDT) Original-Received: from [10.0.1.8] ([83.158.244.89]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id ej10sm46519944wib.12.2014.08.19.01.48.52 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 19 Aug 2014 01:48:52 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Bayes-Prob: 0.0001 (Score 0, tokens from: ntg-context@ntg.nl, base:default, @@RPTN) X-CanIt-Geo: ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::22c; country=IE X-CanItPRO-Stream: uu:ntg-context@ntg.nl (inherits from uu:default, base:default) X-Canit-Stats-ID: 01MExfo6O - ebae28250acd - 20140819 (trained as not-spam) X-Scanned-By: CanIt (www . roaringpenguin . com) X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:88473 Archived-At: On 18 Aug 2014, at 10:43 , Wolfgang Schuster wrote: wrote: > > Am 18.08.2014 um 09:29 schrieb Robert Blackstone : > >> >> On 17 aug. 2014, at 20:06, wrot >> >>> On 2014-08-15, 19:56, Robert Blackstone wrote: >>> >>>> A few days ago I posted this question. There were no reactions, but >>>> it is not an urgent matter for me anymore since I found an effective >>>> work-around. (Although I still wonder whether or not this possibility >>>> exists in mkiv,) >>> >>> I have not seen the issue you have described myself. The attached >>> example works for me. You have to prepare a minimal working example >>> that shows the problem. Maybe then somebody can identify the reason >>> for your issue. >>> >> >> But I have realized now, a bit late, that for real control over these distances one also needs to setup the section-head in a similar manner, additionally specifying the distance "before". >> The presence or absence of Frontmatter does not influence results. >> I think there must have been a setup command somewhere in my setups that I had forgotten about. > > You?re forgetting that \section insert also a space before the text is placed. In a case where two commands insert a space at the same position like here the larger value is used which comes in the second chapter from the \section command. > > Wolfgang Thank you, Wolfgang. I was not forgetting what you describe. Worse, I had not taken any notice, just accepting the default distances as they appeared, which generally seemed OK. I hope to be a bit ConTeXt-wiser now. Kind regards, Robert Blackstone ___________________________________________________________________________________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________________