From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/80563 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: "Keith J. 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Schultz : > = >> Hi Everybody, >> = [snip, snip] >> Also, it took me awhile to find the setupwhitespace command, because for= me whitespace can be >> either horizontal or vertical. I think it would be better to rename it t= o setupparagraphspacing or something >> like that. Or at least define a synonym for it. This would make things e= asier for the casual or beginning user. = > = > Which space do you mean in horizontal direction? O.K. Traditionally in typesetting and typography whitespace is just that w= hite space. White space can also be inter-word spacing (horizontal). = Since ConTeXt's setupwhitespace just maps to the parskip-demension I perso= nally find the name confusing. = = Possible for a synonym one maybe should use then setparagraphskip. This is= just a suggestion. > = >> Maybe I am missing something. Ideas welcome. > = > The problem with the formatting of paragraphs is that TeX (the engine) ha= s no big concept about paragraphs. > = > When you want to change the font or color for a paragraph you have to cha= nge the values of the document > with \setupbodyfont[=85] or \setupcolors[textcolor=3D=85]. For local chan= ges for a certain paragraph you can > apply these values in a group (to change the color you can just use \star= tcolor[=85] =85 \stopcolor). I am aware of this. Since, I noticed the the paragraph(s) environment, I = only assume that the functioned similar to the header environments. My mistake! = It would have been nice, if ConTeXt had such an environment. I do not know= how ConTeXt processes things internally, but since it is a front end, ConTeXt could have the syn= tactic sugar of a "paragraph"-environment. That is that, while parsing the source it injects groups into the code it = outputs for the paragraphs. This would give us then "paragraph"-layout. Naturally, this is not a TeX w= ay, but could be a ConTeXt way. = > = > ConTeXt provides also a paragraph environment but this add only tags when= you export the document > as XML or create a tagged PDF. > = > The paragraphs (note the "s") environment has a Hans already mentioned no= thing to do with paragraphs, > it just puts the content on columns where each column can con tai multipl= e paragraphs. The name > for the environment is misleading because columns is already taken as nam= e. regards Keith ___________________________________________________________________________= ________ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to t= he Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-cont= ext webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___________________________________________________________________________= ________