Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Cedric Mauclair]

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Hi list,


I have some troubles with the simplefonts module. The following worked
fine before (2011.02.25 22:03, need to add '\usemodule[newmat]'), but
doesn't anymore (2011.05.18 22:26).

Minimal example reproduced here. Whatever font I try, the output of
the parentheses is the same. Setting the math font doesn't help
either.

\usemodule[simplefonts]
\setmainfont[Calluna]% could be Latin Modern Roman
%\setmathfont[Latin Modern Math]% as in t-simplefonts.tex

\starttext
  \startformula
    \binom{1}{2}
  \stopformula
\stoptext


Regards.

-- Cédric

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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.05.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Cedric Mauclair:

> Hi list,
> 
> I have some troubles with the simplefonts module. The following worked
> fine before (2011.02.25 22:03, need to add '\usemodule[newmat]'), but
> doesn't anymore (2011.05.18 22:26).


It’s the fault of the OpenType version of the LM Math fonts which
are used when you use the simplefonts module:

\definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][modern]
\definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [modern]

\setupbodyfont[mainface]

\starttext
 \startformula
   \binom{1}{2}
 \stopformula
\stoptext

Wolfgang

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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Cedric Mauclair]

Thanks, but I am afraid I get the same result with your example.

-- Cédric



On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:31, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 23.05.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Cedric Mauclair:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I have some troubles with the simplefonts module. The following worked
>> fine before (2011.02.25 22:03, need to add '\usemodule[newmat]'), but
>> doesn't anymore (2011.05.18 22:26).
>
>
> It’s the fault of the OpenType version of the LM Math fonts which
> are used when you use the simplefonts module:
>
> \definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][modern]
> \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [modern]
>
> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>
> \starttext
>  \startformula
>   \binom{1}{2}
>  \stopformula
> \stoptext
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Mon, 23 May 2011, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

>
> Am 23.05.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Cedric Mauclair:
>
>> Hi list,
>>
>> I have some troubles with the simplefonts module. The following worked
>> fine before (2011.02.25 22:03, need to add '\usemodule[newmat]'), but
>> doesn't anymore (2011.05.18 22:26).
>
>
> It’s the fault of the OpenType version of the LM Math fonts which
> are used when you use the simplefonts module:
>
> \definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][modern]
> \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [modern]
>
> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>
> \starttext
> \startformula
>   \binom{1}{2}
> \stopformula
> \stoptext

If I don't use any font setup, then the result is correct. Isn't opentype 
math setup used in both cases?

Aditya

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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.05.2011 um 15:20 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:

> If I don't use any font setup, then the result is correct. Isn't opentype math setup used in both cases?

Different fonts are used. By default context use the Type1 version
of the Latin Modern fonts while my example force ConTeXt to use
the OpenType version of the fonts where the braces are wrong.

Wolfgang

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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Cedric Mauclair]

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I did the following (just in case):
  export DOFONTDIR=
  mtxrun --script font --reload
  context simplefonts-error.tex

The file simplefonts-error.tex is just what Wolfgang suggested:
  \definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][modern]
  \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [modern]

  \setupbodyfont[mainface]

  \starttext
  \startformula
   \binom{1}{2}
  \stopformula
  \stoptext

After perusing the log file, here are the font files that are loaded:
/DATA/context-minimals/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmmath.otf
/DATA/context-minimals/tex/texmf/fonts/opentype/public/lm/lmroman10-regular.otf.

I really wish to use Calluna with Latin/Computer Modern math because I
find palatino too narrow.


PS: if I should send files in private mails only, just tell me.

-- Cédric



On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 15:20, Aditya Mahajan <adityam@umich.edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 23 May 2011, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>>
>> Am 23.05.2011 um 12:13 schrieb Cedric Mauclair:
>>
>>> Hi list,
>>>
>>> I have some troubles with the simplefonts module. The following worked
>>> fine before (2011.02.25 22:03, need to add '\usemodule[newmat]'), but
>>> doesn't anymore (2011.05.18 22:26).
>>
>>
>> It’s the fault of the OpenType version of the LM Math fonts which
>> are used when you use the simplefonts module:
>>
>> \definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][modern]
>> \definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [modern]
>>
>> \setupbodyfont[mainface]
>>
>> \starttext
>> \startformula
>>  \binom{1}{2}
>> \stopformula
>> \stoptext
>
> If I don't use any font setup, then the result is correct. Isn't opentype
> math setup used in both cases?
>
> Aditya
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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 23.05.2011 um 15:33 schrieb Cedric Mauclair:

> I really wish to use Calluna with Latin/Computer Modern math because I
> find palatino too narrow.

It is too narrow compared with Calluna but it is at least a better match
than Latin Modern but it’s possible the small braces are a bug in ConTeXt
or LuaTeX because it does only appear with OpenType math fonts:

Input:

\usemodule[simplefonts]

\setmainfont[Calluna]

\startbuffer[example]
\input ward\par
\startformula
c^2=a^2+b^2 \quad \binom{1}{2}
\stopformula
\stopbuffer

\starttext

\getbuffer[example]

\setmathfont[palatino]\getbuffer[example]

\setmathfont[euler]\getbuffer[example]

\setmathfont[times]\getbuffer[example]

\setmathfont[cambria]\getbuffer[example]

\stoptext

Output: http://d.pr/hKl1

Wolfgang

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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Cedric Mauclair]

Thanks for your help. I'll go with palatino for now.

-- Cédric



On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 15:52, Wolfgang Schuster
<schuster.wolfgang@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> Am 23.05.2011 um 15:33 schrieb Cedric Mauclair:
>
>> I really wish to use Calluna with Latin/Computer Modern math because I
>> find palatino too narrow.
>
> It is too narrow compared with Calluna but it is at least a better match
> than Latin Modern but it’s possible the small braces are a bug in ConTeXt
> or LuaTeX because it does only appear with OpenType math fonts:
>
> Input:
>
> \usemodule[simplefonts]
>
> \setmainfont[Calluna]
>
> \startbuffer[example]
> \input ward\par
> \startformula
> c^2=a^2+b^2 \quad \binom{1}{2}
> \stopformula
> \stopbuffer
>
> \starttext
>
> \getbuffer[example]
>
> \setmathfont[palatino]\getbuffer[example]
>
> \setmathfont[euler]\getbuffer[example]
>
> \setmathfont[times]\getbuffer[example]
>
> \setmathfont[cambria]\getbuffer[example]
>
> \stoptext
>
> Output: http://d.pr/hKl1
>
> Wolfgang
>
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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Aditya Mahajan]

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On Mon, 23 May 2011, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

>
> Am 23.05.2011 um 15:33 schrieb Cedric Mauclair:
>
>> I really wish to use Calluna with Latin/Computer Modern math because I
>> find palatino too narrow.
>
> It is too narrow compared with Calluna but it is at least a better match
> than Latin Modern but it’s possible the small braces are a bug in ConTeXt
> or LuaTeX because it does only appear with OpenType math fonts:

The bug is with luatex:

http://tug.org/pipermail/lualatex-dev/2011-March/thread.html#1118

Aditya

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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Guanhao Yin]

On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:31:35PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:

> It’s the fault of the OpenType version of the LM Math fonts which
> are used when you use the simplefonts module

So, is it possible to use the simplefonts module with Type1 LM Math?
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Re: Simplefonts, latest beta and binoms

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 24.05.2011 um 16:47 schrieb Guanhao Yin:

> On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:31:35PM +0200, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
> 
>> It’s the fault of the OpenType version of the LM Math fonts which
>> are used when you use the simplefonts module
> 
> So, is it possible to use the simplefonts module with Type1 LM Math?

No but you can use my calluna typescripts:

\usetypescriptfile[type-calluna]

\definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][calluna][default]
\definetypeface[mainface][mm][math] [modern] [computer-modern]

\setupbodyfont[mainface]

\starttext

Calluna and Latin Modern Math

\startformula
\binom{1}{2}
\stopformula

\stoptext

Wolfgang


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