* Re: hyphenation in latest
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@ 2009-04-09 6:35 ` Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
2009-04-09 6:43 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky @ 2009-04-09 6:35 UTC (permalink / raw)
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I can. Please, explain what have to be tested in Russian and Ukrainian,
and what result are expected?
Vyatcheslav
> maybe somethign with the greek patterns then?
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \definedfont[cambria]
> >
> > \language[agr] % try different ones
> > \the\normallanguage
> >
> > \input tufte
> >
> > \stoptext
>
>
> I have looked at the Greek patterns, and there's nothing wrong with
> them; I also tried with older patterns from 2007 which I know worked a
> while ago - nothing, no hyphenation at all. Language like fr and de
> work, but I would need another example with a non-Latin script. Can
> anybody test with Russian or Ukrainian?
>
> Thomas
>
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* Re: hyphenation in latest
2009-04-09 6:35 ` hyphenation in latest Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
@ 2009-04-09 6:43 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-04-09 6:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Apr 9, 2009, at 8:35 AM, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:
> I can. Please, explain what have to be tested in Russian and
> Ukrainian, and what result are expected?
>
> Vyatcheslav
Great. Just run a simple test file like this
\usetypescriptfile[type-gentium] % or any other typescript that has
Cyrillic
\usetypescript[gentium]
\setupbodyfont[gentium,12pt]
\starttext
{\language[agr] \the\normallanguage φιλοσοφία
\hyphenatedword{φιλοσοφία}}
{\language[XXX] \the\normallanguage \hyphenatedword{YYY}}
\stoptext
where XXX is the language code for Russian (ru, I assume?) or
Ukrainian (uk?), and YYY is a Russian/Ukrainian word long enough to
allow hyphenation. The output should show you the word with the proper
hyphenation (whereas here, there is no hyphenation in the Greek word.
Thanks!
Thomas
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* Re: hyphenation in latest
2009-04-09 13:46 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-04-13 8:14 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-04-13 8:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:46 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> in lang-grk ...
>
> \installlanguage
> [\s!agr]
> [\s!default=\s!gr,
> \s!patterns=\s!agr,
> \s!mapping=\s!agr,
> \s!encoding=\s!agr]
>
> there are no gr patterns so you need to specify another set
>
Thanks Hans, it works again in the latest beta!
All best
Thomas
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* Re: hyphenation in latest
2009-04-09 10:46 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2009-04-09 13:46 ` Hans Hagen
2009-04-13 8:14 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-04-09 13:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>>
>> On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>>
>>> weird, as the catcodes look ok
>>>
>>
>> Hmm, I'll do some more tests later; I'll be offline until Sunday
>> night. But it doesn't work in mkii either, so the bug probably is with
>> the pattern file.
>>
> OK, just one more detail before I leave: I get proper hyphenation with
> luatex version 0.35.0 and ConTeXt version 2009.02.24 (had this older
> version still on my linux box). lang-agr.pat in this version and the
> most recent beta is identical. So it's not the pattern file itself which
> is at fault; in between, something must have changed in the way the
> patterns are loaded and used, either in luatex itself or in ConTeXt.
in lang-grk ...
\installlanguage
[\s!agr]
[\s!default=\s!gr,
\s!patterns=\s!agr,
\s!mapping=\s!agr,
\s!encoding=\s!agr]
there are no gr patterns so you need to specify another set
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* Re: hyphenation in latest
2009-04-09 10:18 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2009-04-09 10:46 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2009-04-09 13:46 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-04-09 10:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:18 PM, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> weird, as the catcodes look ok
>>
>
> Hmm, I'll do some more tests later; I'll be offline until Sunday
> night. But it doesn't work in mkii either, so the bug probably is
> with the pattern file.
>
OK, just one more detail before I leave: I get proper hyphenation with
luatex version 0.35.0 and ConTeXt version 2009.02.24 (had this older
version still on my linux box). lang-agr.pat in this version and the
most recent beta is identical. So it's not the pattern file itself
which is at fault; in between, something must have changed in the way
the patterns are loaded and used, either in luatex itself or in ConTeXt.
Thomas
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* Re: hyphenation in latest
2009-04-09 10:11 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-04-09 10:18 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2009-04-09 10:46 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-04-09 10:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:11 PM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> weird, as the catcodes look ok
>
Hmm, I'll do some more tests later; I'll be offline until Sunday
night. But it doesn't work in mkii either, so the bug probably is with
the pattern file.
Thomas
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* Re: hyphenation in latest
2009-04-09 6:14 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2009-04-09 10:11 ` Hans Hagen
2009-04-09 10:18 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-04-09 10:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
> On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
>
>> maybe somethign with the greek patterns then?
>>
>> \starttext
>>
>> \definedfont[cambria]
>>
>> \language[agr] % try different ones
>> \the\normallanguage
>>
>> \input tufte
>>
>> \stoptext
>
> I have looked at the Greek patterns, and there's nothing wrong with
> them; I also tried with older patterns from 2007 which I know worked a
> while ago - nothing, no hyphenation at all. Language like fr and de
> work, but I would need another example with a non-Latin script. Can
> anybody test with Russian or Ukrainian?
weird, as the catcodes look ok
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* Re: hyphenation in latest
2009-04-08 22:00 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2009-04-09 6:14 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
2009-04-09 10:11 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-04-09 6:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
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On Apr 9, 2009, at 12:00 AM, Hans Hagen wrote:
> maybe somethign with the greek patterns then?
>
> \starttext
>
> \definedfont[cambria]
>
> \language[agr] % try different ones
> \the\normallanguage
>
> \input tufte
>
> \stoptext
I have looked at the Greek patterns, and there's nothing wrong with
them; I also tried with older patterns from 2007 which I know worked a
while ago - nothing, no hyphenation at all. Language like fr and de
work, but I would need another example with a non-Latin script. Can
anybody test with Russian or Ukrainian?
Thomas
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* Re: hyphenation in latest
2009-04-08 20:11 Thomas A. Schmitz
@ 2009-04-08 22:00 ` Hans Hagen
2009-04-09 6:14 ` Thomas A. Schmitz
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From: Hans Hagen @ 2009-04-08 22:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
> Hi all, Hans,
>
> I get no hyphenation for ancient Greek with the latest beta (and, as I
> have seen, a couple of betas before that). Test file (I hope this
> doesn't get butchered in the mail):
>
> \usetypescriptfile[type-gentium]
> \usetypescript[gentium]
> \setupbodyfont[gentium,12pt]
>
> \starttext
>
> \language[agr] φιλοσοφία \hyphenatedword{φιλοσοφία}
>
> \stoptext
>
> Interestingly, the log file says:
>
> mkiv lua stats : loaded patterns - agr:gr:pat:exc:3
> us:us:pat:exc:2
>
> but there is no hyphenation. Any pointers?
maybe somethign with the greek patterns then?
\starttext
\definedfont[cambria]
\language[agr] % try different ones
\the\normallanguage
\input tufte
\stoptext
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* hyphenation in latest
@ 2009-04-08 20:11 Thomas A. Schmitz
2009-04-08 22:00 ` Hans Hagen
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From: Thomas A. Schmitz @ 2009-04-08 20:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
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Hi all, Hans,
I get no hyphenation for ancient Greek with the latest beta (and, as I
have seen, a couple of betas before that). Test file (I hope this
doesn't get butchered in the mail):
\usetypescriptfile[type-gentium]
\usetypescript[gentium]
\setupbodyfont[gentium,12pt]
\starttext
\language[agr] φιλοσοφία \hyphenatedword{φιλοσοφία}
\stoptext
Interestingly, the log file says:
mkiv lua stats : loaded patterns - agr:gr:pat:exc:3
us:us:pat:exc:2
but there is no hyphenation. Any pointers?
All best
Thomas
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