From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/31338 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Michael Wigston Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Problems mapping Xml into ConTeXt Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:36:04 +1000 Message-ID: References: Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="===============0092978936==" X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1160624221 16692 80.91.229.2 (12 Oct 2006 03:37:01 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 12 Oct 2006 03:37:01 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Oct 12 05:36:59 2006 Return-path: Envelope-to: gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1GXrNK-0002ri-9L for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:36:50 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id AF15A1FEAA; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:36:49 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30264-02; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:36:41 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 94B291FEEE; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:36:40 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2D2DC1FEEE for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:36:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 24610-03 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:36:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from onenetom19.sge.net (onenetom19.sge.net [152.91.1.19]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with SMTP id 958D91FEAA for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 05:36:21 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from onenetvs15.sge.net (onenetvs-om [152.91.1.17]) by onenetom19.sge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 00B90B654 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:36:10 +1000 (EST) Original-Received: from onenetvs15.sge.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by localhost (Postfix) with ESMTP id B85B232298 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:36:10 +1000 (EST) Original-Received: from quark.sge.net (unknown [152.91.9.198]) by onenetvs15.sge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4B19732239 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:36:10 +1000 (EST) Original-Received: from rbamsw3.a1.asic.gov.au (unknown [10.11.2.19]) by quark.sge.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id A2B641EDA10 for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:36:06 +1000 (EST) Original-Received: from rbagln2.asic.gov.au (rbagln2.asic.gov.au) by rbamsw3.a1.asic.gov.au (Clearswift SMTPRS 5.2.3) with ESMTP id for ; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:36:05 +1000 Original-Received: from rbagln2.asic.gov.au ([127.0.0.1]) by rbagln2.asic.gov.au with InterScan Message Security Suite; Thu, 12 Oct 2006 13:36:05 +1000 In-Reply-To: Original-To: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailer: Lotus Notes 653HF122 February 15, 2005 X-MIMETrack: Serialize by Router on RBAGLN2/Sydney/NSW/ASIC(Release 6.5.4|March 27, 2005) at 12/10/2006 13:36:05, Serialize complete at 12/10/2006 13:36:05 X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.7 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:31338 Archived-At: This is a multipart message in MIME format. --===============0092978936== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="=_alternative 0013C7EFCA257205_=" This is a multipart message in MIME format. --=_alternative 0013C7EFCA257205_= Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hans Hagen wrote: > Michael Wigston wrote: > > 1. This def of does nothing ... > > \defineXMLgrouped [u] \underbar > > > \defineXMLargument[u]{\underbar} > > underbar is not a font switch but a macro that takes an argument Hans, Thanks, that works fine with \underbar, as well as \underbars, \overstrike, \overstrikes, \low, \high and \lohi. You mentioned that \underbar (and presumably the others I mentioned above) are macros taking arguments e.g. \acommand{...}. However presumably something like \midaligned{...} is also a macro requiring an argument, but this works as a \defineXMLgrouped and as a \defineXMLargument - why does it work with both? The manual "XML in ConTeXt" very briefly sketched over these XML commands and I can see great potential to use them directly on XML to generate ConTeXt for PDF rather than the XSLT/XSL-FO route which seems to be gaining momentum in much of the industry. I don't suppose there is another more detailed document which elaborates on the XML commands, and how you may determine which of these is most appropriate for what kind of ConTeXt command mapping? Also at the moment a non-mapped element seems to automatically type out its contents as straight text - is there a way to override this behaviour and specify this as an error? (This is rather like the Ruby duck-typing approach - if an XML element is mapped, process it, else it is an error). Michael NOTICE This e-mail and any attachments are intended for the addressee(s) only and may be confidential. They may contain legally privileged or copyright material. You should not read, copy, use or disclose them without authorisation. If you are not the intended recipient please contact the sender as soon as possible by return e-mail and then please delete both messages. 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Hans Hagen wrote:
> Michael Wigston wrote:
> > 1.  This def of <u> does nothing ...
> > \defineXMLgrouped [u] \underbar
> >
> \defineXMLargument[u]{\underbar}
>
> underbar is not a font switch but a macro that takes an argument


Hans,

Thanks, that works fine with \underbar, as well as \underbars, \overstrike, \overstrikes, \low, \high and \lohi.

You mentioned that \underbar (and presumably the others I mentioned above) are macros taking arguments e.g. \acommand{...}. However presumably something like \midaligned{...}  is also a macro requiring an argument, but this works as a \defineXMLgrouped and as a \defineXMLargument - why does it  work with both?

The manual "XML in ConTeXt" very briefly sketched over these XML commands and I can see great potential to use them directly on XML to generate ConTeXt for PDF rather than the XSLT/XSL-FO route which seems to be gaining momentum in much of the industry. I don't suppose there is another more detailed document which elaborates on the XML commands, and how you may determine which of these is most appropriate for what kind of ConTeXt command mapping?

Also at the moment a non-mapped element seems to automatically type out its contents as straight text - is there a way to override this behaviour and specify this as an error? (This is rather like the Ruby duck-typing approach - if an XML element is mapped, process it, else it is an error).  

Michael

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