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* Inclusion of flow chart
@ 2003-04-24  7:49 emmanuel.rialland
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From: emmanuel.rialland @ 2003-04-24  7:49 UTC (permalink / raw)


Hans, Thanks for the answer on the section and paragraph signs.

I tried \definesymbol[yen][\getglyph{\char165}] to have a yen sign, but it
didn't work. How should I do it otherwise?



Now, I have another brainteaser.

I have a number of charts which a very similar one to another.
They all have the same boxes, with the same texts. The only difference from
one chart to another is the arrows: I am drawing different arrows with
different comments from one chart to another.

To be more efficient, I created a chart containing all the shapes without
any arrows.

Then for each chart, I use the example given at the top of page 8 on the
chart doc:

\includeFLOWchart[][]    (this works perfectly)

and I then try to define the arrows. \connection mentions where the arrows
goes to, but not where it comes from (which is given by the surrounding
cell definition). So I tried the following

\startFLOWcell
  \name[name1]
  \connection[name2]
\stopFLOWcell

where name1 and name2 are cells defined in the generic chart.

As you might have guessed, this breaks everything.

Has anybody an idea as to how I could do that?

Thanks,

Emmanuel





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* Re: Inclusion of flow chart
  2003-05-09  6:16 emmanuel.rialland
@ 2003-05-09 17:54 ` Willi Egger
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From: Willi Egger @ 2003-05-09 17:54 UTC (permalink / raw)


Should work out of the box provided you have bought the pfb files.

Willi
----- Original Message -----
From: <emmanuel.rialland@sgib.com>
To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Sent: Friday, May 09, 2003 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Inclusion of flow chart


>
> Thanks to all. That gives me some leads.
>
> I wanted to try something using your advice but in the mean-time decided
to
> typeset my document in lucida instead of comp modern. My installation just
> won't do it. So I am struggling on this and leave the graphs to later.
>
> Emmanuel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                       "Willi Egger"
>                       <w.egger@boede.nl        To:
<ntg-context@ntg.nl>
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>                       Sent by:                 Subject:  Re: [NTG-context]
Inclusion of flow chart
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>
>                       07/05/2003 18:42
>                       Please respond to
>                       ntg-context
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > At 11:17 07/05/2003 +1100, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hi all,
> > >
> > >I have definitely not been flooded by answers. I am getting the
> impression
> > >that this forum might
> > >not have been the best one to ask (i.e. I have a practical problem
which
> > >has little bearing with
> > >implementation aspects / bugs / new features of Context).
> >
> > hm, normally questions get answered (willy often does the flow chart
> ones,
> > but he may be off for a few days; begin may are also problematic days:
> many
> > holidays, national thingies and so; personally i'm just back from the
> > polish tex conference)
> >
> > i forwarded the mail to willy -)
> >
> > the best hack i can come up with is:
> >
> > % output=pdftex
> >
> > \usemodule[chart]
> >
> > \starttext
> >
> > \startFLOWchart[boxes]
> > \startFLOWcell
> >    \name      {a}
> >    \location  {1,1}
> >    \shape     {action}
> >    \text      {\ss A}
> > \stopFLOWcell
> >
> > \startFLOWcell
> >    \name      {b}
> >    \location  {2,1}
> >    \shape     {action}
> >    \text      {\ss B}
> > \stopFLOWcell
> >
> > \startFLOWcell
> >    \name      {c}
> >    \location  {3,1}
> >    \shape     {action}
> >    \text      {\ss C}
> > \stopFLOWcell
> > \stopFLOWchart
> >
> > \FLOWchart[boxes]
> >
> > \startFLOWchart[arrows]
> >    \includeFLOWchart[boxes]
> >    \startFLOWcell
> >      \name      {1-2}
> >      \location  {1,1}
> >      \shape     {none}
> >      \connection[rl]{b}
> >    \stopFLOWcell
> >    \startFLOWcell
> >      \name      {2-3}
> >      \location  {2,1}
> >      \shape     {none}
> >      \connection[rl]{c}
> >    \stopFLOWcell
> > \stopFLOWchart
> >
> > \FLOWchart[arrows]
> >
> > \stoptext
> >
> > when i have time i'll think about some extension
>
> That is what I meant with my other reply. - I feel however that this is
not
> quite what Emmanuel is looking for. I stand corrected, the idea is to have
> a
> basket with shapes and another basket with arrows. Pick on the fly the
> necessary pieces and assemble them in a chart, place the chart in a figure
> environment and put a numberd legenda underneath of it. -- Hm, I would not
> know how to achieve this without tweaking the sources...
>
> Willi
>
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* Re: Inclusion of flow chart
@ 2003-05-09  6:16 emmanuel.rialland
  2003-05-09 17:54 ` Willi Egger
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From: emmanuel.rialland @ 2003-05-09  6:16 UTC (permalink / raw)



Thanks to all. That gives me some leads.

I wanted to try something using your advice but in the mean-time decided to
typeset my document in lucida instead of comp modern. My installation just
won't do it. So I am struggling on this and leave the graphs to later.

Emmanuel







                                                                                                                            
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> At 11:17 07/05/2003 +1100, you wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have definitely not been flooded by answers. I am getting the
impression
> >that this forum might
> >not have been the best one to ask (i.e. I have a practical problem which
> >has little bearing with
> >implementation aspects / bugs / new features of Context).
>
> hm, normally questions get answered (willy often does the flow chart
ones,
> but he may be off for a few days; begin may are also problematic days:
many
> holidays, national thingies and so; personally i'm just back from the
> polish tex conference)
>
> i forwarded the mail to willy -)
>
> the best hack i can come up with is:
>
> % output=pdftex
>
> \usemodule[chart]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startFLOWchart[boxes]
> \startFLOWcell
>    \name      {a}
>    \location  {1,1}
>    \shape     {action}
>    \text      {\ss A}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> \startFLOWcell
>    \name      {b}
>    \location  {2,1}
>    \shape     {action}
>    \text      {\ss B}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> \startFLOWcell
>    \name      {c}
>    \location  {3,1}
>    \shape     {action}
>    \text      {\ss C}
> \stopFLOWcell
> \stopFLOWchart
>
> \FLOWchart[boxes]
>
> \startFLOWchart[arrows]
>    \includeFLOWchart[boxes]
>    \startFLOWcell
>      \name      {1-2}
>      \location  {1,1}
>      \shape     {none}
>      \connection[rl]{b}
>    \stopFLOWcell
>    \startFLOWcell
>      \name      {2-3}
>      \location  {2,1}
>      \shape     {none}
>      \connection[rl]{c}
>    \stopFLOWcell
> \stopFLOWchart
>
> \FLOWchart[arrows]
>
> \stoptext
>
> when i have time i'll think about some extension

That is what I meant with my other reply. - I feel however that this is not
quite what Emmanuel is looking for. I stand corrected, the idea is to have
a
basket with shapes and another basket with arrows. Pick on the fly the
necessary pieces and assemble them in a chart, place the chart in a figure
environment and put a numberd legenda underneath of it. -- Hm, I would not
know how to achieve this without tweaking the sources...

Willi


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* Re: Inclusion of flow chart
  2003-05-07  7:44 ` Hans Hagen
@ 2003-05-07  8:42   ` Willi Egger
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Willi Egger @ 2003-05-07  8:42 UTC (permalink / raw)


> At 11:17 07/05/2003 +1100, you wrote:
>
> >Hi all,
> >
> >I have definitely not been flooded by answers. I am getting the
impression
> >that this forum might
> >not have been the best one to ask (i.e. I have a practical problem which
> >has little bearing with
> >implementation aspects / bugs / new features of Context).
>
> hm, normally questions get answered (willy often does the flow chart ones,
> but he may be off for a few days; begin may are also problematic days:
many
> holidays, national thingies and so; personally i'm just back from the
> polish tex conference)
>
> i forwarded the mail to willy -)
>
> the best hack i can come up with is:
>
> % output=pdftex
>
> \usemodule[chart]
>
> \starttext
>
> \startFLOWchart[boxes]
> \startFLOWcell
>    \name      {a}
>    \location  {1,1}
>    \shape     {action}
>    \text      {\ss A}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> \startFLOWcell
>    \name      {b}
>    \location  {2,1}
>    \shape     {action}
>    \text      {\ss B}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> \startFLOWcell
>    \name      {c}
>    \location  {3,1}
>    \shape     {action}
>    \text      {\ss C}
> \stopFLOWcell
> \stopFLOWchart
>
> \FLOWchart[boxes]
>
> \startFLOWchart[arrows]
>    \includeFLOWchart[boxes]
>    \startFLOWcell
>      \name      {1-2}
>      \location  {1,1}
>      \shape     {none}
>      \connection[rl]{b}
>    \stopFLOWcell
>    \startFLOWcell
>      \name      {2-3}
>      \location  {2,1}
>      \shape     {none}
>      \connection[rl]{c}
>    \stopFLOWcell
> \stopFLOWchart
>
> \FLOWchart[arrows]
>
> \stoptext
>
> when i have time i'll think about some extension

That is what I meant with my other reply. - I feel however that this is not
quite what Emmanuel is looking for. I stand corrected, the idea is to have a
basket with shapes and another basket with arrows. Pick on the fly the
necessary pieces and assemble them in a chart, place the chart in a figure
environment and put a numberd legenda underneath of it. -- Hm, I would not
know how to achieve this without tweaking the sources...

Willi

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* Re: Inclusion of flow chart
  2003-05-07  0:17 emmanuel.rialland
@ 2003-05-07  8:26 ` Willi Egger
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Willi Egger @ 2003-05-07  8:26 UTC (permalink / raw)


As far as I know the FLOWchart module you can include existing pieces of
charts into a new one (see also the manual). However I would not know how to
separate the shapes from the arrows and combine the parts at will.

Krgds Willi

----- Original Message -----
From: <emmanuel.rialland@sgib.com>
To: <ntg-context@ntg.nl>
Sent: Wednesday, May 07, 2003 2:17 AM
Subject: Re: [NTG-context] Inclusion of flow chart


>
> Hi all,
>
> I have definitely not been flooded by answers. I am getting the impression
> that this forum might
> not have been the best one to ask (i.e. I have a practical problem which
> has little bearing with
> implementation aspects / bugs / new features of Context).
>
> I have gone through comp.text.tex, but it seems to be heavily oriented
> towards latex.
> Would you have any other direction I could go to and get some assistance?
>
> Thanks for showing a door (;-)),
>
> Emmanuel
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Thanks Hans. Apologies if the discussion doesn't flow very much, I am
> writing from down under.
>
>
> In fact, what I would ideally like to do is the following:
>
> 1- Define a template with the boxes without any arrows.
> 2- Write numbered lists describing arrows that would be generated on top
of
> the template.
>
> The overview might look like the following (with some bogus macro names):
>
> % Somewhere in a template file
> % Template for the boxes:
>
> \StartMPTemplate[Boxes]
> %
> %   -----     -----     -----
> %   !   !     !   !     !   !
> %   ! A !     ! B !     ! C !
> %   -----     -----     -----
> %
> \startFLOWcell
>   \name      {a}
>   \location  {1,1}
>   \shape     {action}
>   \text      {\ss A}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> \startFLOWcell
>   \name      {b}
>   \location  {2,1}
>   \shape     {action}
>   \text      {\ss B}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> \startFLOWcell
>   \name      {c}
>   \location  {3,1}
>   \shape     {action}
>   \text      {\ss C}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> \StopMPTemplate
>
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> % This creates the first chapter
> \startcomponent Right
> \Chapter{Every to the right}
>
>
> % Inserts a float with the proper figure and the proper arrows using the
> difinitions coming afterward
> \StartMPGraphWithTemplate[Right]
> \IncludeFLOWchartTemplate[Boxes]
> \StopMPGraphWithTemplate
>
> % Place the float
> \placefigure
>   [here,force]
>   [fig:chart1]
>   {Chart One}
>   {\framed{\FLOWchart[Right]}}
>
> % normal itemised text that will be numbered and will dynamically add tyhe
> arrows to the figure [Right]
> \startitemizeWithFLOWchart
>   \arrow[labels=number,from=a,fromside=r,to=b,toside=l] This is the first
> arrow.
>   \arrow[labels=number,from=b,fromside=r,to=c,toside=l] This is the second
> arrow.
> \stopitemizeWithFLOWchart
>
> %  This is the result
> %
> %   -----     -----     -----
> %   !   !  1  !   !  2  !   !
> %   ! A !---->! B !---->! C !
> %   !   !     !   !     !   !
> %   -----     -----     -----
> %
>
> % The text should appear below the float as \startitemize would have done
>
> % 1  This is the first arrow.
> % 2  This is the second arrow.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> % This creates the next chapter
> \startcomponent Left
> \Chapter{Every to the left}
>
>
> % Inserts a float with the proper figure and the proper arrows using the
> difinitions coming afterward
> \StartMPGraphWithTemplate[Left]
> \IncludeFLOWchartTemplate[Boxes]
> \StopMPGraphWithTemplate
>
> % normal itemised text that will be numbered and will dynamically add tyhe
> arrows to the figure [Right]
> \startitemizeWithFLOWchart
>   \arrow[labels=number,from=c,fromside=r,to=a,toside=l] This is the top
> arrow.
> \stopitemizeWithFLOWchart
>
> %  This is the result
> % !------------------------------
> % !  -----     -----     -----  !
> % !  !   !     !   !     !   !  !
> % -->! A !     ! B !     ! C !--!
> %    !   !     !   !     !   !
> %    -----     -----     -----
> %
> %
>
>
> The idea is that everything is dynamic:
> - if the template changes, all the graphs get redrawn with the boxes at
> their new place. The arrows get moved as needed.
> - if the itemised text is changed (say the 'second arrow' line is written
> before the 'first arrow'), then on the graph, the arrow from a to b would
> be numbered 2 and the arrow from b to c would become 1.
>
>
> What I tried is the definition you see at the top for the boxes. Then, to
> generate the first graph, I would have:
>
> ---------------------------------------------------
> \startFLOWchart[chart]
>
> % Inserts template
> \includeFLOWchart[template][x=1,y=1]
>
> % Additional information on top of cell a
> \startFLOWcell
>   \name       {a}
>   \connection [rl] {b}
>   \comment    [t]  {\ss 1}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> % Additional information on top of cell b
> \startFLOWcell
>   \name       {b}
>   \connection [rl] {c}
>   \comment    [t]  {\ss 2}
> \stopFLOWcell
>
> \stopFLOWchart
> ---------------------------------------------------
>
>
> All I get is the template without any arrows.
>
>
> I thought about trying to generate massive metafun macros. But I want the
> itemised text to be text and not a graph.
>
>
> Bottom line: is it possible? realistic?
>
> I have been using MS Word so far to do that sort of thing. It has been
> quite tedious to reflect any change in the box structure: 10 charts means
> 10 charts to re-edit.
>
>
>
>
> As a bonus question that should be easier. Is it possible to draw other
> sorts of arrows: i would like to draw straght line arrows that could
follow
> a diagonal (say go north-east instead of east first then north), or
> circular arrows like:
>
>
> %
> %   -----
> %   !   !
> %   !   !<--
> %   -----   \
> %            \
> %            |
> %   -----    /
> %   !   !   /
> %   ! A !<--
> %   -----
>
>
>
> As usual any help is welcome.
>
> Emmanuel
>
>
>
>
>
>
>                       Hans Hagen
>                       <pragma@wxs.nl>          To:
ntg-context@ntg.nl
>                       Sent by:                 cc:       Emmanuel
>                       RIALLAND/au/socgen@socgen
>                       ntg-context-admin        Subject:  Re: [NTG-context]
>                       Inclusion of flow chart
>                       @ntg.nl
>
>
>                       30/04/2003 05:17
>                       Please respond to
>                       ntg-context
>
>
>
>
>
>
> At 18:49 24/04/2003 +1100, emmanuel.rialland@sgib.com wrote:
>
> >As you might have guessed, this breaks everything.
> >
> >Has anybody an idea as to how I could do that?
>
> can you make a minimal example?
>
> Hans
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* Re: Inclusion of flow chart
       [not found] <OFDF16F088.98092AAB-ONCA256D1F.00005588@tk.jp.world.socgen >
@ 2003-05-07  7:44 ` Hans Hagen
  2003-05-07  8:42   ` Willi Egger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-05-07  7:44 UTC (permalink / raw)


At 11:17 07/05/2003 +1100, you wrote:

>Hi all,
>
>I have definitely not been flooded by answers. I am getting the impression
>that this forum might
>not have been the best one to ask (i.e. I have a practical problem which
>has little bearing with
>implementation aspects / bugs / new features of Context).

hm, normally questions get answered (willy often does the flow chart ones, 
but he may be off for a few days; begin may are also problematic days: many 
holidays, national thingies and so; personally i'm just back from the 
polish tex conference)

i forwarded the mail to willy -)

the best hack i can come up with is:

% output=pdftex

\usemodule[chart]

\starttext

\startFLOWchart[boxes]
\startFLOWcell
   \name      {a}
   \location  {1,1}
   \shape     {action}
   \text      {\ss A}
\stopFLOWcell

\startFLOWcell
   \name      {b}
   \location  {2,1}
   \shape     {action}
   \text      {\ss B}
\stopFLOWcell

\startFLOWcell
   \name      {c}
   \location  {3,1}
   \shape     {action}
   \text      {\ss C}
\stopFLOWcell
\stopFLOWchart

\FLOWchart[boxes]

\startFLOWchart[arrows]
   \includeFLOWchart[boxes]
   \startFLOWcell
     \name      {1-2}
     \location  {1,1}
     \shape     {none}
     \connection[rl]{b}
   \stopFLOWcell
   \startFLOWcell
     \name      {2-3}
     \location  {2,1}
     \shape     {none}
     \connection[rl]{c}
   \stopFLOWcell
\stopFLOWchart

\FLOWchart[arrows]

\stoptext

when i have time i'll think about some extension

Hans
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* Re: Inclusion of flow chart
@ 2003-05-07  0:17 emmanuel.rialland
  2003-05-07  8:26 ` Willi Egger
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: emmanuel.rialland @ 2003-05-07  0:17 UTC (permalink / raw)



Hi all,

I have definitely not been flooded by answers. I am getting the impression
that this forum might
not have been the best one to ask (i.e. I have a practical problem which
has little bearing with
implementation aspects / bugs / new features of Context).

I have gone through comp.text.tex, but it seems to be heavily oriented
towards latex.
Would you have any other direction I could go to and get some assistance?

Thanks for showing a door (;-)),

Emmanuel






Thanks Hans. Apologies if the discussion doesn't flow very much, I am
writing from down under.


In fact, what I would ideally like to do is the following:

1- Define a template with the boxes without any arrows.
2- Write numbered lists describing arrows that would be generated on top of
the template.

The overview might look like the following (with some bogus macro names):

% Somewhere in a template file
% Template for the boxes:

\StartMPTemplate[Boxes]
%
%   -----     -----     -----
%   !   !     !   !     !   !
%   ! A !     ! B !     ! C !
%   -----     -----     -----
%
\startFLOWcell
  \name      {a}
  \location  {1,1}
  \shape     {action}
  \text      {\ss A}
\stopFLOWcell

\startFLOWcell
  \name      {b}
  \location  {2,1}
  \shape     {action}
  \text      {\ss B}
\stopFLOWcell

\startFLOWcell
  \name      {c}
  \location  {3,1}
  \shape     {action}
  \text      {\ss C}
\stopFLOWcell

\StopMPTemplate


------------------------------------------------------------------

% This creates the first chapter
\startcomponent Right
\Chapter{Every to the right}


% Inserts a float with the proper figure and the proper arrows using the
difinitions coming afterward
\StartMPGraphWithTemplate[Right]
\IncludeFLOWchartTemplate[Boxes]
\StopMPGraphWithTemplate

% Place the float
\placefigure
  [here,force]
  [fig:chart1]
  {Chart One}
  {\framed{\FLOWchart[Right]}}

% normal itemised text that will be numbered and will dynamically add tyhe
arrows to the figure [Right]
\startitemizeWithFLOWchart
  \arrow[labels=number,from=a,fromside=r,to=b,toside=l] This is the first
arrow.
  \arrow[labels=number,from=b,fromside=r,to=c,toside=l] This is the second
arrow.
\stopitemizeWithFLOWchart

%  This is the result
%
%   -----     -----     -----
%   !   !  1  !   !  2  !   !
%   ! A !---->! B !---->! C !
%   !   !     !   !     !   !
%   -----     -----     -----
%

% The text should appear below the float as \startitemize would have done

% 1  This is the first arrow.
% 2  This is the second arrow.

------------------------------------------------------------------

% This creates the next chapter
\startcomponent Left
\Chapter{Every to the left}


% Inserts a float with the proper figure and the proper arrows using the
difinitions coming afterward
\StartMPGraphWithTemplate[Left]
\IncludeFLOWchartTemplate[Boxes]
\StopMPGraphWithTemplate

% normal itemised text that will be numbered and will dynamically add tyhe
arrows to the figure [Right]
\startitemizeWithFLOWchart
  \arrow[labels=number,from=c,fromside=r,to=a,toside=l] This is the top
arrow.
\stopitemizeWithFLOWchart

%  This is the result
% !------------------------------
% !  -----     -----     -----  !
% !  !   !     !   !     !   !  !
% -->! A !     ! B !     ! C !--!
%    !   !     !   !     !   !
%    -----     -----     -----
%
%


The idea is that everything is dynamic:
- if the template changes, all the graphs get redrawn with the boxes at
their new place. The arrows get moved as needed.
- if the itemised text is changed (say the 'second arrow' line is written
before the 'first arrow'), then on the graph, the arrow from a to b would
be numbered 2 and the arrow from b to c would become 1.


What I tried is the definition you see at the top for the boxes. Then, to
generate the first graph, I would have:

---------------------------------------------------
\startFLOWchart[chart]

% Inserts template
\includeFLOWchart[template][x=1,y=1]

% Additional information on top of cell a
\startFLOWcell
  \name       {a}
  \connection [rl] {b}
  \comment    [t]  {\ss 1}
\stopFLOWcell

% Additional information on top of cell b
\startFLOWcell
  \name       {b}
  \connection [rl] {c}
  \comment    [t]  {\ss 2}
\stopFLOWcell

\stopFLOWchart
---------------------------------------------------


All I get is the template without any arrows.


I thought about trying to generate massive metafun macros. But I want the
itemised text to be text and not a graph.


Bottom line: is it possible? realistic?

I have been using MS Word so far to do that sort of thing. It has been
quite tedious to reflect any change in the box structure: 10 charts means
10 charts to re-edit.




As a bonus question that should be easier. Is it possible to draw other
sorts of arrows: i would like to draw straght line arrows that could follow
a diagonal (say go north-east instead of east first then north), or
circular arrows like:


%
%   -----
%   !   !
%   !   !<--
%   -----   \
%            \
%            |
%   -----    /
%   !   !   /
%   ! A !<--
%   -----



As usual any help is welcome.

Emmanuel






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                      ntg-context-admin        Subject:  Re: [NTG-context]
                      Inclusion of flow chart
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                      30/04/2003 05:17
                      Please respond to
                      ntg-context






At 18:49 24/04/2003 +1100, emmanuel.rialland@sgib.com wrote:

>As you might have guessed, this breaks everything.
>
>Has anybody an idea as to how I could do that?

can you make a minimal example?

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* Re: Inclusion of flow chart
@ 2003-04-29 23:29 emmanuel.rialland
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From: emmanuel.rialland @ 2003-04-29 23:29 UTC (permalink / raw)



Thanks Hans. Apologies if the discussion doesn't flow very much, I am
writing from down under.


In fact, what I would ideally like to do is the following:

1- Define a template with the boxes without any arrows.
2- Write numbered lists describing arrows that would be generated on top of
the template.

The overview might look like the following (with some bogus macro names):

% Somewhere in a template file
% Template for the boxes:

\StartMPTemplate[Boxes]
%
%   -----     -----     -----
%   !   !     !   !     !   !
%   ! A !     ! B !     ! C !
%   -----     -----     -----
%
\startFLOWcell
  \name      {a}
  \location  {1,1}
  \shape     {action}
  \text      {\ss A}
\stopFLOWcell

\startFLOWcell
  \name      {b}
  \location  {2,1}
  \shape     {action}
  \text      {\ss B}
\stopFLOWcell

\startFLOWcell
  \name      {c}
  \location  {3,1}
  \shape     {action}
  \text      {\ss C}
\stopFLOWcell

\StopMPTemplate


------------------------------------------------------------------

% This creates the first chapter
\startcomponent Right
\Chapter{Every to the right}


% Inserts a float with the proper figure and the proper arrows using the
difinitions coming afterward
\StartMPGraphWithTemplate[Right]
\IncludeFLOWchartTemplate[Boxes]
\StopMPGraphWithTemplate

% Place the float
\placefigure
  [here,force]
  [fig:chart1]
  {Chart One}
  {\framed{\FLOWchart[Right]}}

% normal itemised text that will be numbered and will dynamically add tyhe
arrows to the figure [Right]
\startitemizeWithFLOWchart
  \arrow[labels=number,from=a,fromside=r,to=b,toside=l] This is the first
arrow.
  \arrow[labels=number,from=b,fromside=r,to=c,toside=l] This is the second
arrow.
\stopitemizeWithFLOWchart

%  This is the result
%
%   -----     -----     -----
%   !   !  1  !   !  2  !   !
%   ! A !---->! B !---->! C !
%   !   !     !   !     !   !
%   -----     -----     -----
%

% The text should appear below the float as \startitemize would have done

% 1  This is the first arrow.
% 2  This is the second arrow.

------------------------------------------------------------------

% This creates the next chapter
\startcomponent Left
\Chapter{Every to the left}


% Inserts a float with the proper figure and the proper arrows using the
difinitions coming afterward
\StartMPGraphWithTemplate[Left]
\IncludeFLOWchartTemplate[Boxes]
\StopMPGraphWithTemplate

% normal itemised text that will be numbered and will dynamically add tyhe
arrows to the figure [Right]
\startitemizeWithFLOWchart
  \arrow[labels=number,from=c,fromside=r,to=a,toside=l] This is the top
arrow.
\stopitemizeWithFLOWchart

%  This is the result
% !------------------------------
% !  -----     -----     -----  !
% !  !   !     !   !     !   !  !
% -->! A !     ! B !     ! C !--!
%    !   !     !   !     !   !
%    -----     -----     -----
%
%


The idea is that everything is dynamic:
- if the template changes, all the graphs get redrawn with the boxes at
their new place. The arrows get moved as needed.
- if the itemised text is changed (say the 'second arrow' line is written
before the 'first arrow'), then on the graph, the arrow from a to b would
be numbered 2 and the arrow from b to c would become 1.


What I tried is the definition you see at the top for the boxes. Then, to
generate the first graph, I would have:

---------------------------------------------------
\startFLOWchart[chart]

% Inserts template
\includeFLOWchart[template][x=1,y=1]

% Additional information on top of cell a
\startFLOWcell
  \name       {a}
  \connection [rl] {b}
  \comment    [t]  {\ss 1}
\stopFLOWcell

% Additional information on top of cell b
\startFLOWcell
  \name       {b}
  \connection [rl] {c}
  \comment    [t]  {\ss 2}
\stopFLOWcell

\stopFLOWchart
---------------------------------------------------


All I get is the template without any arrows.


I thought about trying to generate massive metafun macros. But I want the
itemised text to be text and not a graph.


Bottom line: is it possible? realistic?

I have been using MS Word so far to do that sort of thing. It has been
quite tedious to reflect any change in the box structure: 10 charts means
10 charts to re-edit.




As a bonus question that should be easier. Is it possible to draw other
sorts of arrows: i would like to draw straght line arrows that could follow
a diagonal (say go north-east instead of east first then north), or
circular arrows like:


%
%   -----
%   !   !
%   !   !<--
%   -----   \
%            \
%            |
%   -----    /
%   !   !   /
%   ! A !<--
%   -----



As usual any help is welcome.

Emmanuel





                                                                                                                                       
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At 18:49 24/04/2003 +1100, emmanuel.rialland@sgib.com wrote:

>As you might have guessed, this breaks everything.
>
>Has anybody an idea as to how I could do that?

can you make a minimal example?

Hans
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@ 2003-04-29 19:17 ` Hans Hagen
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread
From: Hans Hagen @ 2003-04-29 19:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
  Cc: emmanuel.rialland

At 18:49 24/04/2003 +1100, emmanuel.rialland@sgib.com wrote:

>As you might have guessed, this breaks everything.
>
>Has anybody an idea as to how I could do that?

can you make a minimal example?

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