Re: Questions

Re: Questions

[Hans Hagen]

At 11:59 AM 5/27/2000 +0800, Mr. Wang Lei wrote:

>Solved. \setuppagenumber[number=1]

Indeed, but I don't like such setups spread over the source (could be done
by using environment files and [before=...], but that's ugly. Therefore
I'll move some experimental stuff I use here to the core so that one does
not have to intermix text and setups. 

\startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
  \setuppagenumbering[conversion=romannumerals]
\stopsectionblockenvironment

\startsectionblockenvironment[bodypart]
  \setuppagenumber[number=1]
\stopsectionblockenvironment

\startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
  \setuppagenumbering[conversion=character]
\stopsectionblockenvironment

\starttext
  \startfrontmatter \chapter{test} \stopfrontmatter
  \startbodymatter  \chapter{test} \stopbodymatter
  \startappendices  \chapter{test} \stopappendices
\stoptext

>The English manual no \setuppagenumber definition.
>But have two \setuppagenumbering in page 93

Ok, corrected. 

Hans

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Re: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Sat, 27 May 2000, Hans Hagen wrote:

> Indeed, but I don't like such setups spread over the source (could be done
> by using environment files and [before=...], but that's ugly. Therefore
> I'll move some experimental stuff I use here to the core so that one does
> not have to intermix text and setups. 
> 
> \startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
   texexec give a Undefined control error message.

>   \setuppagenumbering[conversion=romannumerals]
> \stopsectionblockenvironment
> 
> >The English manual no \setuppagenumber definition.
> >But have two \setuppagenumbering in page 93
> 
> Ok, corrected. 
> 

When the math part of the english manual can be download?
I want some guide of math formula. 

Wang

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Re: Questions

[Hans Hagen]

At 03:54 PM 5/30/2000 +0800, Mr. Wang Lei wrote:

>> \startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]

Hm. It's in the beta of today. Do you use the latest beta? 

Hans

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Re: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Hans Hagen wrote:

> At 03:54 PM 5/30/2000 +0800, Mr. Wang Lei wrote:
> 
> >> \startsectionblockenvironment[frontpart]
> 
> Hm. It's in the beta of today. Do you use the latest beta? 
> 
Just download the beta a little while. It works now. 
I will remember always download the lastest beta. :)

About fonts, now the predefined \SimChi just have two
family. Regular and Bold. How can I add other font family?
I want use more different fonts in header, footer and
frames.

I try to add other font definition as follow, 

\definefontsynonym [SimplifiedChineseSans]    [gbkai] [encoding=gbk]
\definefontsynonym [SimplifiedChineseSerif]   [gbfs]  [encoding=gbk]

but when I use command like \ss to switch them, it seems no
effect. Any hints? 

Regards  

Wang

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Re: Questions

[Hans Hagen]

At 08:59 PM 5/30/2000 +0800, Mr. Wang Lei wrote:

>About fonts, now the predefined \SimChi just have two
>family. Regular and Bold. How can I add other font family?
>I want use more different fonts in header, footer and
>frames.
>
>I try to add other font definition as follow, 
>
>\definefontsynonym [SimplifiedChineseSans]    [gbkai] [encoding=gbk]
>\definefontsynonym [SimplifiedChineseSerif]   [gbfs]  [encoding=gbk]
>
>but when I use command like \ss to switch them, it seems no
>effect. Any hints? 

\defineunicodefont [FunChi] [SimplifiedChineseSans] [chinese]

\FunChi Something Sans Serif Chinese

should work. Chinese fonts work mostly independent from the normal font
mechanism.  

Hans

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Re: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Tue, 30 May 2000, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \defineunicodefont [FunChi] [SimplifiedChineseSans] [chinese]
> 
> \FunChi Something Sans Serif Chinese
> 
> should work. Chinese fonts work mostly independent from the normal font
> mechanism.  
> 

It works in the body. how can I use it in the header or 
table of contents? I try 

\setupheader
   [style=\FunChi\ss] %because I want the non-chinese in Sans Serif, too.

seems no effect.

Wang

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Re: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Sat, 27 May 2000, Hans Hagen wrote:

> \starttext
>   \startfrontmatter \chapter{test} \stopfrontmatter
>   \startbodymatter  \chapter{test} \stopbodymatter
>   \startappendices  \chapter{test} \stopappendices

In \startappendices .... \stopappendices,
When I \usemodule[chinese], texexec give an error message:

structure      : begin of sectionblock appendices
! Missing number, treated as zero.
<to be read again> 
                   A
\Character #1->\ifcase #1\unknowncharacter \or A
                                                \or B\or C\or D\or E\or
F\or...

\@@sectionconversion ...ieblok \c!conversie }}{#2}
                                                  \fi \fi 
\@@shortsectionnumber ...#1}{\@@sectionvalue {#1}}
                                                  \fi 
\finalsectionnumber ...tsectionnumber {\@@sectie }
                                                  \else \getvalue
{\@@sectie...

\chinesenumber ...fter \dochinesenumber \number #1
                                                  \relax 
...
l.18   \startappendices  \chapter{test}
                                        \stopappendices
?

May be the Chinese number labeltext result this problem?

Another question, How can I set the table option 
so that I can put a very long table which occupy four or five
pages? and how can I set the column width to a specified value
such as 2in ?

Wang

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RE: Questions

[Berend de Boer]

> Another question, How can I set the table option 
> so that I can put a very long table which occupy four or five
> pages? and how can I set the column width to a specified value
> such as 2in ?

You can either use \starttabellen, or better use \starttabulate.

Width can be set with entries like:

	\starttabulate[|l|p(2cm)]
	\stoptabulate

Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

RE: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Berend de Boer wrote:

> You can either use \starttabellen, or better use \starttabulate.
> 
> Width can be set with entries like:
> 
> 	\starttabulate[|l|p(2cm)]
> 	\stoptabulate
> 

Thanks. it can set the column width. But how can I place a long 
table in four or file pages? just like the longtable package
does in latex?

Regards,

Wang

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RE: Questions

[Berend de Boer]

> Thanks. it can set the column width. But how can I place a long
> table in four or file pages? just like the longtable package
> does in latex?

\starttabulate automatically breaks across pages (not always in exactly the
line you sometimes want, but that's a minor issue).

It does not float, so it starts right where you put it.

Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

RE: Questions

[Hans Hagen]

At 04:06 PM 6/1/2000 +0200, Berend de Boer wrote:
>> Thanks. it can set the column width. But how can I place a long
>> table in four or file pages? just like the longtable package
>> does in latex?
>
>\starttabulate automatically breaks across pages (not always in exactly the
>line you sometimes want, but that's a minor issue).
>
>It does not float, so it starts right where you put it.

It can float, try:  

\setuplayout[height=5cm]

\startbuffer
\starttabulate[|||]
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\NC test \NC test \NC \NR
\stoptabulate
\stopbuffer

\splitfloat
  {\placetable{caption}}
  {\getbuffer}

[still a bit experimental btw]

Hans

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Re: Questions

[Hans Hagen]

At 05:52 PM 6/1/2000 +0800, Mr. Wang Lei wrote:

>In \startappendices .... \stopappendices,
>When I \usemodule[chinese], texexec give an error message:

You can add, in s-chi-00: 

\stelsectiein [\v!sectionlevel-2] [\v!bijlage\c!conversie=]

Keep in mind that for chinese we have a pretty tricky double conversion
call chain, so here we need to disable the default ABC numbering. 

Hans

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RE: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Thu, 1 Jun 2000, Berend de Boer wrote:

> \starttabulate automatically breaks across pages (not always in exactly the
> line you sometimes want, but that's a minor issue).
> 
> It does not float, so it starts right where you put it.
> 

Sure, \starttabulate can across pages. but my problem
is that I want add a cpation to the table, place the 
table in the middle, place a head and a foot on each page,
like LaTeX longtable environment does. I read the article
written by Taco on comparing ConTeXt and LaTeX, he said
ConTeXt already supply that function. But I didn't know how
to implement. If I use \placetable, it only give one page.

Regards,

Wang

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RE: Questions

[Berend de Boer]

> Sure, \starttabulate can across pages. but my problem
> is that I want add a cpation to the table, place the 
> table in the middle, place a head and a foot on each page,
> like LaTeX longtable environment does.

I see, and this is not yet in the english manual.

Here some samples (not tested):

\definetabletemplate
	[demo]
	[|r|l|]
	[demo head]
	[demo tail]

Head:

\starttablehead[demo head]
\HL \VL zie \VL zo \VL\AR \HL
\stoptablehead

Tail:

\starttabletail[demo tail]
\HL
\stoptabletail

Now table with head and tail is:

\starttable[demo]
\VL before \VL after \VL\AR
\VL up \VL below \VL\AR
\stoptable

Now head and tail are hopefully repeated. Let me know if this works.

Groetjes,

Berend. (-:

RE: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Berend de Boer wrote:

> > Sure, \starttabulate can across pages. but my problem
> > is that I want add a cpation to the table, place the 
> > table in the middle, place a head and a foot on each page,
> > like LaTeX longtable environment does.
> 
> I see, and this is not yet in the english manual.
> 
> Here some samples (not tested):

This example can not place a long table across pages. 
I think I must explain my question more clearly. I have
a long table, may need five pages to place it. In each
page, I want a head line which give the definition
of each column in the table. And, also a tail line
at the end of each page except the last page which
indicate the table will be continuing in the next page.
for example, a three pages table as follows:

page 1:

         Table 1.1   City data              <---- table caption
------------------------------------------
      City    Latitude   Longitude          <----- head line
------------------------------------------
     Beijing  39.906111  116.387778
     ...      ...        ...                <----- table body

------------------------------------------ 
                        See next page ...    <---- tail line  
                                             <---- end of page 1

page 2:

------------------------------------------                                      
      City     Latitude   Longitude                                              
------------------------------------------     
      Shanghai 31.247778  121.4725
      ...      ...        ...
------------------------------------------                                      
                        See next page ...                                       
                                             <---- end of page 2

page 3:
------------------------------------------                                      
      City     Latitude   Longitude
------------------------------------------          
      Xian     34.265556  108.883333
      ...      ...        ...
------------------------------------------   
                                             <---- end of table.
                                                   and no tail line

Regards,

Wang

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Re: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Hans Hagen wrote:

> >In \startappendices .... \stopappendices,
> You can add, in s-chi-00: 
> 
> \stelsectiein [\v!sectionlevel-2] [\v!bijlage\c!conversie=]
> 
> Keep in mind that for chinese we have a pretty tricky double conversion
> call chain, so here we need to disable the default ABC numbering. 
> 

Are you mean we can not use the follow setup to get a 
appendix numbered with A B or C in Chinese module?

\setupsection[section-2]
             [appendixconversion=Character,
              previousnumber=no] 

Beside this, I use the following setup:

\setuplabeltext[appendix=\uchar{184}{189}\uchar{194}{188}]

\setuphead[chapter]
          [appendixlabel=appendix,
           bodypartlabel=chapter]

In the body, the label of appendix is changer in Chinese
with \uchar{184}{189}\uchar{194}{188}\chinesenumber{1}.
but in the table of contents, it still the same as 
other chapters in the body part. like

\chapterprefix\chinesenumber{1}\chapterprefix

Wang

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Re: Questions

[Mr. Wang Lei]

On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Mr. Wang Lei wrote:

> On Fri, 2 Jun 2000, Hans Hagen wrote:
> 
> > >In \startappendices .... \stopappendices,
> > You can add, in s-chi-00: 
> > 
> > \stelsectiein [\v!sectionlevel-2] [\v!bijlage\c!conversie=]
> > 
> > Keep in mind that for chinese we have a pretty tricky double conversion
> > call chain, so here we need to disable the default ABC numbering. 
> > 
> 
> Are you mean we can not use the follow setup to get a 
> appendix numbered with A B or C in Chinese module?
> 
> \setupsection[section-2]
>              [appendixconversion=Character,
>               previousnumber=no] 
> 
> Beside this, I use the following setup:
> 
> \setuplabeltext[appendix=\uchar{184}{189}\uchar{194}{188}]
> 
> \setuphead[chapter]
>           [appendixlabel=appendix,
>            bodypartlabel=chapter]
> 
> In the body, the label of appendix is changer in Chinese
> with \uchar{184}{189}\uchar{194}{188}\chinesenumber{1}.
> but in the table of contents, it still the same as 
> other chapters in the body part. like
> 
> \chapterprefix\chinesenumber{1}\chapterprefix

I put the following before the \startappendices,

\stelsectiein [\v!sectionlevel-2] [\c!kopconversie=\s!english]

So I get "\uchar{184}{189}\uchar{194}{188} A" in the text body.
But the table of contents still show
"\chapterprefix A \chapterprefix " other than 
"\uchar{184}{189}\uchar{194}{188} A".

Wang

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Re: Questions

[Hans Hagen]

At 04:05 PM 7/31/00 -0700, David Arnold wrote:
>All,
>
>With this layout
>
>\setuppapersize[S6][S6]
>
>\setuplayout
>[header=0cm,
> topspace=.5cm,
> backspace=2cm,
> margindistance=0.5cm, %0.5cm
> margin=1cm,
> rightmargin=0.0cm, %0.0cm
> rightedge=5.0cm, %rightedge=2.0cm
> edgedistance=0.5cm, %edgedistance=0.5cm
> width=fit,
> footer=1cm,
> height=middle]
>
>can anyone explain to me how that spce between the rightedge and the edge
>of the page is calculated? Maybe the more correct question is this: How is
>the width of the text area calculated? What's the arithmetic formula? That
>is, \makeupwidth=? What is the formula if I change to width=middle? I wish
>these formulae were in the English manual.

either look in main-001.tex : \resetlayout, which will also teach you a bit
dutch or look in mp-page.mp, which shows my bad english. The formulas will
make you wish you never asked this question -) 

As (i suppose) the manual says, margins and edges are virtual. So, they
don't count in calculations of width. The fit option is meant for screen
docs, and compensates for backspace too as good as possible in order to get
a symmetrical layout. [which is not needed for paper]. Some info on this
may go into the manual on screen docs, but is not useful for paper work. As
soon as you start using background offsets, you need to spec the dimensions
yourself. 

Hans
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Questions

[David Arnold]

All,

With this layout

\setuppapersize[S6][S6]

\setuplayout
[header=0cm,
 topspace=.5cm,
 backspace=2cm,
 margindistance=0.5cm, %0.5cm
 margin=1cm,
 rightmargin=0.0cm, %0.0cm
 rightedge=5.0cm, %rightedge=2.0cm
 edgedistance=0.5cm, %edgedistance=0.5cm
 width=fit,
 footer=1cm,
 height=middle]

can anyone explain to me how that spce between the rightedge and the edge
of the page is calculated? Maybe the more correct question is this: How is
the width of the text area calculated? What's the arithmetic formula? That
is, \makeupwidth=? What is the formula if I change to width=middle? I wish
these formulae were in the English manual.

-
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College of the Redwoods
Mathematics Department
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(707) 476-4222

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Re: questions

[Ed L Cashin]

Johannes Hüsing <tmi0m0@spo109.power.uni-essen.de> writes:

> On Fri 2000-04-21 (17:37), Hans (pragma@wxs.nl) wrote:
> > Error's like:
> > 
> > specials       : command \dogetnofinsertpages does not exist
> > specials       : command \doinsertsoundtrack does not exist
> > specials       : command \dostartclipping does not exist
> > specials       : command \dostopclipping does not exist
> > specials       : command \doregistercalculationset does not
> > exist
> > specials       : command \dosetposition does not exist
> > specials       : command \dosetpositionwhd does not exist
> > ! Too many }'s.
> > l.797      \fi}
> > 
> > indeed point to an out of sync installations and berends
> > suggestion of removing the context base path and reinstalling
> > the new one is ok. 
> > 
>
> Pardon my ignorance, but I am still lost here. I rmrf'ed
> $TEXMF/tex/context and unzipped the up-to-date cont-tmf.zip over
> $TEXMF, so the old tex/context/base files are supposed to be
> gone. Yet I am getting the same error messages here.
> 
> Thanks for any enlightenment.

I just followed Berend's advice with a slight modification: I moved
*all* of the context directories (there are several) to the name
"context.20000421".  Then I unzip'ed the cont-tmf.zip in
"/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf", my texmf directory.

These commands would speed it up:

cd /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf
for dir in `find . -type d -name context`; do mv $dir $dir.20000421; done

... Then I copied "context/config/texexec.rme" to
"context/config/texexec.ini" and copied "context/perltk/texexec.pl"
to "/usr/local/bin/texexec" ... then

cp -i tex/context.20000421/config/* tex/context/config

... without writing over the new file.  Then regenerated the formats
... come to think of it, what I did was pretty complicated.  But
simply unzipping the cont-tmf.zip over a current installation never
has worked for me.  This way worked. Hmm.

-- 
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Re: questions

[Johannes Hüsing]

On Fri 2000-04-21 (17:37), Hans (pragma@wxs.nl) wrote:
> Error's like:
> 
> specials       : command \dogetnofinsertpages does not exist
> specials       : command \doinsertsoundtrack does not exist
> specials       : command \dostartclipping does not exist
> specials       : command \dostopclipping does not exist
> specials       : command \doregistercalculationset does not
> exist
> specials       : command \dosetposition does not exist
> specials       : command \dosetpositionwhd does not exist
> ! Too many }'s.
> l.797      \fi}
> 
> indeed point to an out of sync installations and berends
> suggestion of removing the context base path and reinstalling
> the new one is ok. 
> 

Pardon my ignorance, but I am still lost here. I rmrf'ed $TEXMF/tex/context
and unzipped the up-to-date cont-tmf.zip over $TEXMF, so the old tex/context/base
files are supposed to be gone. Yet I am getting the same error messages here.

Thanks for any enlightenment.

Johannes

questions

[pragma]

Error's like:

specials       : command \dogetnofinsertpages does not exist
specials       : command \doinsertsoundtrack does not exist
specials       : command \dostartclipping does not exist
specials       : command \dostopclipping does not exist
specials       : command \doregistercalculationset does not
exist
specials       : command \dosetposition does not exist
specials       : command \dosetpositionwhd does not exist
! Too many }'s.
l.797      \fi}

indeed point to an out of sync installations and berends
suggestion of removing the context base path and reinstalling
the new one is ok. 

As one can deduce there are indeed some new (yet undocumented)
things -) 

Hans