From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/16619 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Mari Voipio Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: cygwin/tetex or miktex? Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:49:09 +0300 (EEST) Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Mari Voipio , mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097477379 14342 80.91.229.6 (11 Oct 2004 06:49:39 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 06:49:39 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Mon Oct 11 08:49:26 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CGtzq-0003kJ-00 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:49:26 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id A135E1278F; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:49:25 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02481-09-4; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:49:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3841C12784; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:49:20 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8EB9612784 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:49:18 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (ronja.vet.uu.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 02481-09-3 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lagavulin.sappho.net (unknown [194.100.59.12]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 3E43F1277C for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 08:49:16 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from lagavulin.sappho.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by lagavulin.sappho.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id i9B6n9LF020914 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:49:09 +0300 Original-Received: from localhost (mari@localhost) by lagavulin.sappho.net (8.13.1/8.13.1/Debian-14) with ESMTP id i9B6n9Xl020910 for ; Mon, 11 Oct 2004 09:49:09 +0300 X-Authentication-Warning: lagavulin.sappho.net: mari owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: Original-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users In-Reply-To: X-Lagavulin-MailScanner: Found to be clean X-MailScanner-From: mari.voipio@iki.fi X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:16619 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:16619 On 8 Oct 2004, rb wrote: > Is one of these two preferable when running ConTeXt on windows? If you ask me (Windows NT/2000/XP), none of them... When I started to learn ConTeXt, I installed miktex, but I didn't like it. Then I tried TeXLive model 2002 and while it had couple of font installation problems, once I got it to work, it worked fine. Since this spring I'm using TeXLive 2003 and once I got to as far as burning the CD (downloading problems + stupid Windows XP doesn't have built-in tools for opening .bz2 archives or burning .iso CD:s!) and found the magic line to be added to my old ConTeXt docs to make fonts work (the one about \usetypescript[adobekb][\defaultencoding]), I haven't had any problems whatsoever (or, let's say: all problems have been caused by my code, haven't found bugs in the TeXLive installation). I use NT Emacs+context.el as my editor (XEmacs would come on the TeXLive CD, but I didn't want to switch) as I'm used to GNU Emacs from before. However, even WordPad or Notepad will do, they just don't have the highlighting etc. SciTe is an editor for Windows, but even with Pragma's manual (at , fifth from top, fifth from left), installation was kind of tricky, not as easy as we Windows users are used to. On the other hand, once SciTe is installed and some commands (like 'what "build" means') have been explained to the clueless Windows+Word user, they seem to find Scite easy to master (ok, test group is really small, but you get the idea - it is a challenge to introduce something like ConTeXt into a standard office environment). There are other suitable editors out there, too, but I haven't tested them. However, if you are *only* using ConTeXt, I'd recommend downloading http://www.pragma-ade.com/context/install/mswintex.zip.bz2 (minimal CONTEXT distribution (windows)) from Pragma's website. Or, if you want something portable, grab (stand-alone CONTEXT environment (iso image)), unzip, burn onto cd, insert cd into any Windows PC and use! (Disclaimer: I haven't tested the minimal version yet, will need to hog somebody elses NT for test purposes; my stand-alone version is from August and works fine with a multiple file environment. That ConTeXt CD includes a pre-configured editor, I don't know about the current stand-alone version) If your Windows doesn't recognize the bz2 archives, for example the free unzipper PowerArchiver will open it (there's also a handy command line bz2-unzipper, google for it, I don't remember the name); I think cygwin had it... And all reasonable CD burning programs (like Nero) burn .iso images, it's just XP's built-in burner that's too dumb for it (been there, tried that, cursed it....). Hmm... Maybe I should *finally* get around to continuing on my context4windows.html.... (and probably context4windowsusers.html as well and windowseditors4context.html and....) Greetings from sub-zero temperatures, Mari windows user, windows teacher (but unix mail!)