From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 X-Msuck: nntp://news.gmane.io/gmane.comp.tex.context/20637 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Staszek Wawrykiewicz Newsgroups: gmane.comp.tex.context Subject: Re: Fleurons Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:31:25 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: References: <429E3241.8030603@wxs.nl> Reply-To: mailing list for ConTeXt users NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117700958 5951 80.91.229.2 (2 Jun 2005 08:29:18 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 2 Jun 2005 08:29:18 +0000 (UTC) Cc: ntg-context@ntg.nl, Jerzy.Ludwichowski@uni.torun.pl, v.r.w.Schaa@gsi.de, Karl Berry Original-X-From: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Thu Jun 02 10:29:12 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl ([131.211.172.88] helo=ronja.ntg.nl) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ddl39-00029S-JA for gctc-ntg-context-518@m.gmane.org; Thu, 02 Jun 2005 10:27:35 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2FC2C127E0; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:30:38 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 01128-04-4; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 10:30:37 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.vet.uu.nl (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 805C012805; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 09:52:23 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 913E21280E for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:29:36 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from ronja.ntg.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp.ntg.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with LMTP id 30217-07 for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:29:35 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from re86.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (re86.internetdsl.tpnet.pl [80.55.56.86]) by ronja.ntg.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 298361278F for ; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:29:34 +0200 (CEST) Original-Received: from localhost (staw@localhost) by re86.internetdsl.tpnet.pl (8.11.6/8.11.6) with ESMTP id j51NVPF08188; Thu, 2 Jun 2005 01:31:25 +0200 X-Authentication-Warning: re86.internetdsl.tpnet.pl: staw owned process doing -bs X-X-Sender: staw@re86.internetdsl.tpnet.pl Original-To: Hans Hagen In-Reply-To: <429E3241.8030603@wxs.nl> X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 02 Jun 2005 09:52:22 +0200 X-BeenThere: ntg-context@ntg.nl X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: mailing list for ConTeXt users List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl Errors-To: ntg-context-bounces@ntg.nl X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.0.3 (2005-04-27) on smtp.ntg.nl X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at ntg.nl Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.comp.tex.context:20637 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.comp.tex.context:20637 On Thu, 2 Jun 2005, Hans Hagen wrote: > Staszek Wawrykiewicz wrote: > > AFM and PFM files are supplied here for the sake of > > completeness only. They are normally not required for use > > with TeX. > this is not true, you need the afm's when you use them to make graphics > in other progs that will then be used by tex; also, you need them in > order to generate metrics for encodings other than teh shipped ones Hans, I cited readme by Walter and tried to explain: there's no ready tfm metrics for _those_ urw. Existing ones were generated for older, not so nice urw fonts. > > In fact, nobody knows how the *old* mess with tfm, vf etc. fits > > to more *new* urw pfb which are of better quality then the older ones. > > Anyway both distributions cannot be mixed. Not to say about packaging, etc. > > So I introduced "urw35vf" (#3416) which contains all (historical) stuff > > for those using urw fonts directly (.vf, .tfm, .fd, .sty files). > > Everybody has freedom using them from TL. Thomas removed such stuff > > from teTeX as simply garbage. > > he's free to do that but it sounds strange and dangerous to me Why? Anybody is free to make tfm files, as afm files are always available for _that_ set of urw fonts. -- Staszek Wawrykiewicz StaW@gust.org.pl